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TheKingOfHearts Apr 18th 2017 1:21 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12230890)
Thanks



I knew Verizon phones had a sim card but thought that was for use overseas with local sims.

Live and learn.

This used to be the case before proliferation of LTE, to a smaller extent it still is.

If the country you've visiting doesn't have LTE (GSM) or your phone doesn't have LTE then the SIM card will be used to fall back to the host countries 3G/2G GSM network if no CDMA networks are available.

That being said, 90% of the time your phone when, being used for Vz in the US, will be using LTE and the SIM card. But it can and will utilise CDMA if LTE isn't available in the region.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:09 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12230851)
If you are bringing a phone from the UK the only 2 providers in the US who use sim cards are ATT and T-Mobile.

WRONG.

This was true in the CDMA era, but both Sprint and VZW have LTE networks which require sim cards.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Olly_ (Post 12230859)
All the networks use SIM cards now - LTE is a GSM technology.

No, it isn't. LTE is its own standard, outside that of GSM.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:12 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12230921)
As well as the quality of coverage, the other big difference you'll notice about cell phones out here is the price. They are expensive!

Do you mean mobile subscription fees are more expensive? If so, that's true, however if you mean the phones themselves, then that's not true (the phone hardware is significantly less expensive in the US).

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:14 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by petitefrancaise (Post 12230985)
t-mobile phones bought here in the USA will make calls using wifi abroad. A non-t-mobile phone even with a t-mobile sim won't.

Wrong. There are certain phones that work with T-Mobile's VoWiFi implementation regardless of where purchased / obtained.

Some that spring to mind are the Google Pixel, Apple's iPhone, and the Moto G5 (there are others).

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:15 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by TheKingOfHearts (Post 12231608)
This used to be the case before proliferation of LTE, to a smaller extent it still is.

If the country you've visiting doesn't have LTE (GSM)

LTE != GSM.

GSM is GSM.
LTE is LTE.


But it can and will utilise CDMA if LTE isn't available in the region.
You mean if VoLTE isn't available. There's a crucial difference.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:19 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 
To answer the OP's question; I would initially go with ATT GoPhone's $45 plan for 6GB[1]. You can purchase refills through callingmart.com automatically for the price of $40.50 (no taxes), and add extra data (3GB) for $20 if required. Otherwise, you will be throttled to 128k/sec until renewal.

You don't tell us which model iPhone you have, but if you have a one of the last 3 generations, it will have the required bands for ATT (apart from band 30, but that's not widely deployed yet). Once you're settled, you can then make a decision as to which phone / cell plan suits your purpose best.

[1] I don't recommend T-Mobile until I know which model iPhone you have, as without Band 12 (700mhz) support you will have a less than optimum experience.

markonline1 Apr 18th 2017 3:19 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 12231729)
Do you mean mobile subscription fees are more expensive? If so, that's true, however if you mean the phones themselves, then that's not true (the phone hardware is significantly less expensive in the US).

Wow! Someone got up out of the wrong side of bed LOL. I did mean the contract charges. I've yet to see anything that compares with 3's unlimited data, text calls, and international calls for 15 quid!

mrken30 Apr 18th 2017 3:20 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 12231729)
Do you mean mobile subscription fees are more expensive? If so, that's true, however if you mean the phones themselves, then that's not true (the phone hardware is significantly less expensive in the US).

I upgraded my plan today, to unlimited US and UK calls, unlimited data and unlimited text. Now I have to pay $23 a month, no multiple lines required. :( I do have to put up with using the T-Mobile infrastructure and no short code SMS.

Ten years ago I used to buy unlocked phones for use in the US from Carphone Warehouse because they were so much cheaper than the US. Also the phones in the UK had much better features. Funny how things change in such a short period of time.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:24 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12231738)
Wow! Someone got up on JR wrong side of bed LOL. I did mean the contract charges. I've yet to see anything that compares with 3's unlimited data, text calls, and international calls for 15 quid!

I used to think this, and I see where you're coming from, but I've also experienced a different reality with US cell providers that justifies their prices.

1. They're simply better. LTE has been rolled out here for years, and VoLTE / VoWiFi technologies were deployed in the US far before they were in the UK.

2. The quality of coverage given the land mass scale the US has is very impressive compared to the inability of UK providers to roll out coverage to a tiny island.

3. Three (and other UK cell providers) have recently increased their prices across the board. The plan you cite does not exist anymore.

4. Three has hardly any low band spectrum; massively important for successful network coverage. It's why they are still plagued with coverage issues.

5. I pay $50 to T-Mobile for completely unlimited; nothing is even remotely comparable to that in the UK. The UK has gone for lower prices and lower quality. It shows.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:27 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12231739)
I upgraded my plan today, to unlimited US and UK calls, unlimited data and unlimited text. Now I have to pay $23 a month, no multiple lines required. :( I do have to put up with using the T-Mobile infrastructure and no short code SMS.

$23 all in? Which plan is this? T-Mobile does support short code SMS BTW, at least on post-paid.


Ten years ago I used to buy unlocked phones for use in the US from Carphone Warehouse because they were so much cheaper than the US. Also the phones in the UK had much better features. Funny how things change in such a short period of time.
Like Starbucks brought good coffee to Americans, the same happened with Apple and the iPhone. Remember, those phones you refer to weren't British, they were Finnish (or Swedish).

mrken30 Apr 18th 2017 3:35 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 12231744)
$23 all in? Which plan is this? T-Mobile does support short code SMS BTW, at least on post-paid.

I use Lycamobile, a T-Mobile MVNO. I think I also get a 9% discount with auto renewal. It is a PAYG (Prepaid) plan.


Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 12231744)
Like Starbucks brought good coffee to Americans, the same happened with Apple and the iPhone. Remember, those phones you refer to weren't British, they were Finnish (or Swedish).

The last 2 phones from that era, which I still use sometimes, were Sony phones. But I agree Nokia and Ericsson were also good phones.

hungryhorace Apr 18th 2017 3:44 pm

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Ah, fair enough.

Sony purchased Ericsson's mobile phone business remember. I had one of their T-610's; very nice little phones. It's ironic that Ericsson and Nokia (Networks) are now the single largest suppliers of backend cellular equipment to wireless providers. T-Mobile has rapidly built out their LTE network in the US with (primarily) Ericsson, for example.

markonline1 Apr 18th 2017 3:47 pm

Re: Best mobile phone provider
 

Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 12231741)
2. The quality of coverage given the land mass scale the US has is very impressive compared to the inability of UK providers to roll out coverage to a tiny island.

Oh yeah, although I wince every time I see my bill, I realize if you want decent phone coverage in a county this size, you gotta pay for it.

mrken30 Apr 18th 2017 3:52 pm

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Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12231763)
Oh yeah, although I wince every time I see my bill, I realize if you want decent phone coverage in a county this size, you gotta pay for it.

I just have to pay roaming charges if I am out of coverage, that applies to less than 1% of the time, so no big deal. The money I spend on roaming charges is insignificant compared to the savings I make.


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