Arvind Rangaraj

Hi,

Is there a down side to claiming unemployment insurance from TWC while on Green Card
status? will that be an issue when you go for Citizenship??

Thanks, /Arvind

Ingo Pakleppa

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:13:45 -0500, "Arvind Rangarajan" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >Is there a down side to claiming unemployment insurance from TWC while on Green Card
    >status? will that be an issue when you go for Citizenship??

No, it should not be an issue, since citizenship does not require the "public
charge" test.

And even for those cases where receiving benefits was an issue, you could overcome it
by repaying the benefits.

Ingo

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Joachim Feise

Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    > On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:13:45 -0500, "Arvind Rangarajan" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >>Is there a down side to claiming unemployment insurance from TWC while on Green
    >>Card status? will that be an issue when you go for Citizenship??
    >
    >
    > No, it should not be an issue, since citizenship does not require the "public
    > charge" test.
    >
    > And even for those cases where receiving benefits was an issue, you could overcome
    > it by repaying the benefits.

In addition, unemployment benefits are not public benefits, so there is no problem to
begin with.

-Joe

Stuart Brook

Joachim Feise wrote:
    >
    > Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:13:45 -0500, "Arvind Rangarajan" <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>Hi,
    > >>
    > >>Is there a down side to claiming unemployment insurance from TWC while on Green
    > >>Card status? will that be an issue when you go for Citizenship??
    > >
    > >
    > > No, it should not be an issue, since citizenship does not require the "public
    > > charge" test.
    > >
    > > And even for those cases where receiving benefits was an issue, you could
    > > overcome it by repaying the benefits.
    >
    > In addition, unemployment benefits are not public benefits, so there is no problem
    > to begin with.
    >
    > -Joe

Joe, although UI is not a public benefit, were an NI to claim it, the INS reaction is
that one is more likely to become a public charge since it implies they don't have
enough to live on! Then without even receiving a penny, they set themselves up for
removal! Ouch!

And note this is for *non-immigrants* as opposed to those who've got an EAD or a
Green Card.

Stuart

Joachim Feise

Stuart Brook wrote:
    >
    > Joachim Feise wrote:
    >
    >>Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:13:45 -0500, "Arvind Rangarajan" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>>Is there a down side to claiming unemployment insurance from TWC while on Green
    >>>>Card status? will that be an issue when you go for Citizenship??
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>No, it should not be an issue, since citizenship does not require the "public
    >>>charge" test.
    >>>
    >>>And even for those cases where receiving benefits was an issue, you could overcome
    >>>it by repaying the benefits.
    >>
    >>In addition, unemployment benefits are not public benefits, so there is no problem
    >>to begin with.
    >>
    >>-Joe
    >
    >
    > Joe, although UI is not a public benefit, were an NI to claim it, the INS reaction
    > is that one is more likely to become a public charge since it implies they don't
    > have enough to live on! Then without even receiving a penny, they set themselves up
    > for removal! Ouch!
    >
    > And note this is for *non-immigrants* as opposed to those who've got an EAD or a
    > Green Card.

It usually is not possible for non-immigrants to claim unemployment benefits, since
to do so you have to be willing and *able* to accept any employment. This obviously
is not possible for somebody on H1 or other temporary work visas. This whole thread
was about unemployment benefits for Permanent Residents.

-Joe

    >
    > Stuart

Stuart Brook

Joachim Feise wrote:

    > >>In addition, unemployment benefits are not public benefits, so there is no
    > >>problem to begin with.
    > >>
    > >>-Joe
    > >
    > >
    > > Joe, although UI is not a public benefit, were an NI to claim it, the INS
    > > reaction is that one is more likely to become a public charge since it implies
    > > they don't have enough to live on! Then without even receiving a penny, they set
    > > themselves up for removal! Ouch!
    > >
    > > And note this is for *non-immigrants* as opposed to those who've got an EAD or a
    > > Green Card.
    >
    > It usually is not possible for non-immigrants to claim unemployment benefits, since
    > to do so you have to be willing and *able* to accept any employment. This obviously
    > is not possible for somebody on H1 or other temporary work visas. This whole thread
    > was about unemployment benefits for Permanent Residents.
    >
    > -Joe

Yeah, I realized both points (been there, done that, got the bruises ... although
it's not always obvious ... some states' laws make it look feasible ... and even the
people who work there have allowed claims to be made!)

The point I was trying to make was that although it's not a public benefit, but an
insured service, claiming it can cause grief to NIs because the INS interprets a
claim very much like a public charge.

It was the public charge bit that I was looking at, as an FYI on the side.

Stuart

Arvind Rangaraj

Thanks guys for the replies. As always this is the best resource available for NIs
and PRs...(GC holders)

/Arvind

"Arvind Rangarajan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1019665176.743588@sj-nntpcache-3...
    > Hi,
    >
    > Is there a down side to claiming unemployment insurance from TWC while on Green
    > Card status? will that be an issue when you go for Citizenship??
    >
    > Thanks, /Arvind