Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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Jan 13th 2009, 10:35 pm

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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You would make a good juror, probably convict on the persecutors opening remarks.

Imagine, never tried that but being a trained investigator I always went with the gather all the available evidence together evaluate it and see what it told me approach.

A good juror is one that convicts, is that the cop in you?
I'm familiar with that mentality, unless it's one of their own that is.

Jan 13th 2009, 10:55 pm

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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A good juror is one that convicts, is that the cop in you?
I'm familiar with that mentality, unless it's one of their own that is.

Or it could have been, you know, some kind of snarky sarcasm thing going on there.

Jan 13th 2009, 10:56 pm

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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A good juror is one that convicts, is that the cop in you?
I'm familiar with that mentality, unless it's one of their own that is.

Whoosh....

Jan 13th 2009, 11:07 pm

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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A good juror is one that convicts, is that the cop in you?
I'm familiar with that mentality, unless it's one of their own that is.

A good juror decides the outcome on all the evidence not just a snippet of it, which is what you are doing. The point I was making was just that you hear a very small portion and decide.

Please don't decide what my mentality is just because I was a cop, makes you look as foolish and stupid as the people who hate people on the color of their skin and is no different.

Jan 13th 2009, 11:30 pm

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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Sorry I just presumed a cop might want to see a conviction. Especially as you think someone ready to convict makes a good juror.

Jan 13th 2009, 11:33 pm

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Sorry I just presumed a cop might want to see a conviction. Especially as you think someone ready to convict makes a good juror.

English comprehension not your strong point I see.

Jan 13th 2009, 11:37 pm

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English comprehension not your strong point I see.

Originally Posted by lansbury View Post
You would make a good juror, probably convict on the persecutors opening remarks.

Following the conversation not your strong point I see.

Jan 13th 2009, 11:38 pm

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Originally Posted by lansbury View Post
You would make a good juror, probably convict on the persecutors opening remarks.

Following the conversation not your strong point I see.

Cripes, how many more times do you need this explaining to you? "Not your strong point" was clearly an understatement.

Jan 13th 2009, 11:42 pm

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

I just have to say I really can't see jack shit on that tape.

I only know what happened because everybody told me what happened.

Oh and the sound of the gunshot. That was helpful too.

Jan 14th 2009, 12:04 am

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I just have to say I really can't see jack shit on that tape.

I only know what happened because everybody told me what happened.

Oh and the sound of the gunshot. That was helpful too.

How about the dead guy?

Jan 14th 2009, 12:08 am

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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I just have to say I really can't see jack shit on that tape.

I only know what happened because everybody told me what happened.

Oh and the sound of the gunshot. That was helpful too.

Well... sounds like there were as many people as saw de Menezes get plugged.
Though that was pre-meditated and intentional.

Jan 14th 2009, 12:08 am

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Cripes, how many more times do you need this explaining to you? "Not your strong point" was clearly an understatement.

Do you know WTF your talking about? I sure don't. understanding you takes comprehension to another world of make believe.

Jan 14th 2009, 12:22 am

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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How about the dead guy?

I couldn't see that from the tape.

I'm not trying to build a defense for the cop. Quite the opposite. I'm just saying that I can't tell what happened by looking at the footage.

Jan 14th 2009, 12:32 am

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I couldn't see that from the tape.

I'm not trying to build a defense for the cop. Quite the opposite. I'm just saying that I can't tell what happened by looking at the footage.

This vid may make it clearer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neal-r..._b_156280.html

Jan 14th 2009, 12:40 am

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Re: Police in Oakland shoot dead 22 year old in front of commuters

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This vid may make it clearer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neal-r..._b_156280.html

Guess I'm a cold, callous bitch. I could really care less about the situation. There are far more cruel injustices going on in the world for me to focus on, rather than for me to care if a cop made a mistake or not.

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