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cazz0069 Jul 22nd 2015 12:14 am

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I'll keep everything crossed for you. Don't forget those waiting once yours is approved (see what I did there?) positive thinking ;-)

Gman5 Jul 22nd 2015 1:14 am

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Can I check the status of the application? I've just checked the ceac website and it just says refused but I've been put forward for a waiver

bubble123 Jul 22nd 2015 1:29 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11705445)
Can I check the status of the application? I've just checked the ceac website and it just says refused but I've been put forward for a waiver

My Husbands says refused too, he's also been recommended for a waiver. I thought it would stay at this until we hear further?

Gman5 Jul 22nd 2015 1:32 am

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11705464)
My Husbands says refused too, he's also been recommended for a waiver. I thought it would stay at this until we hear further?

True, I just thought it might say something like "waiting for approval for waiver" or something along those lines. The way I've read it suggests the whole application has been refused

bubble123 Jul 22nd 2015 1:42 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11705468)
True, I just thought it might say something like "waiting for approval for waiver" or something along those lines. The way I've read it suggests the whole application has been refused

You're not alone in that!

How long have you been waiting?

bubble123 Jul 22nd 2015 1:49 am

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[email protected].

Do you think this could be another way for us to contact them if we're not getting a response from the embassy?

ian-mstm Jul 22nd 2015 1:59 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11705468)
The way I've read it suggests the whole application has been refused

The whole application has been refused. Why? Because there are only two possible outcomes from a visa application: approval or denial. Anything that isn't an approval, is classified as a denial. Indeed, you can't be recommended for a waiver until the visa is first denied. That you have been subsequently recommended for a waiver doesn't change that initial outcome.

Ian

Gman5 Jul 22nd 2015 2:00 am

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11705478)
You're not alone in that!

How long have you been waiting?

I had my interview 20th may so currently at 9 weeks stage! How about you?

bubble123 Jul 22nd 2015 2:03 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11705503)
I had my interview 20th may so currently at 9 weeks stage! How about you?

My Husband had his interview March 18th, we're meant to be going to NYC 2nd December & with the 6 months that takes us too September 18th. I'm hoping it will be done in time. 18 weeks today.. Hope it's not too much longer!

Gman5 Jul 22nd 2015 2:04 am

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11705505)
My Husband had his interview March 18th, we're meant to be going to NYC 2nd December & with the 6 months that takes us too September 18th. I'm hoping it will be done in time. 18 weeks today.. Hope it's not too much longer!

I'm in the same sort of boat going to NYC end of November and the 6 months takes it to October 20th but daren't book a hotel yet! Hope you manage to get yours in time

bubble123 Jul 22nd 2015 2:25 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11705507)
I'm in the same sort of boat going to NYC end of November and the 6 months takes it to October 20th but daren't book a hotel yet! Hope you manage to get yours in time

Ah yes you too.. I booked the hotel on travel republic as it was £1 deposit & free amendment & got a good price so thought we'd take the chance as we can just move the booking.

How long you going for?

Tweety23 Jul 22nd 2015 4:42 am

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11705161)
wow 37 weeks that's such a long time, was this your first visa waiver and which embassy did you apply at? I am starting to stress now like everyone else, just hope all our information was not lost when the biometric checking system went down last month as there is absolutely no way to even check if we are still in DHS system will never get to the top of the list if it not there:unsure:

Hi there,
This is my husbands second one and he applied in London. I do wonder what impact the recent problems have had - on another forum some people have said they've been waiting 6 weeks to have their passports returned.
37 weeks is a long and frustrating wait and it is very difficult to plan when timescales are so inconsistent.

Tweety23 Jul 22nd 2015 4:48 am

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11705464)
My Husbands says refused too, he's also been recommended for a waiver. I thought it would stay at this until we hear further?

My husbands has said 'administrative processing' from the start - obviously he was also refused a visa. Not sure if anything changes much on CEAC, the date of his status update has only changed once during our wait.

angeleno1510 Jul 22nd 2015 6:21 am

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11705170)
The website is actually very misleading one part says 22 weeks then another part it states 5 months but if u click on the arrests and conviction section( only on a computer not phone ) a red "important notice comes up on the side of page advising 27 weeks or longer this caught me out 2, but must b true as I am up to week 25 tmrw 😢 are you in Sydney Australia?

Wow I have never noticed this part, but I believe it is true too... I applied from Sydney and at week 39 now. Not sure how much longer it will take :fingerscrossed:

downundergirl Jul 22nd 2015 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11705489)
[email protected].

Do you think this could be another way for us to contact them if we're not getting a response from the embassy?

Hi there that email address will only return an automated reply advising they cannot give out any information sorry it just a waiting game I'm nearly ready to Give up hope on my plans suppose to be leaving in a month today.
I am so upset & sad don't think I have read on this forum in the last couple of months anyone having their visa in their hands under 30 weeks.

cazz0069 Jul 22nd 2015 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11705445)
Can I check the status of the application? I've just checked the ceac website and it just says refused but I've been put forward for a waiver

If you read the small print under the big REFUSED declaration it will say something along the lines of 'please take note of information that was given to you at the time of the appointment' or words to that effect.

downundergirl seems right though, the wait times seem to have escalated greatly.

I still have visuals of the whole department consisting of 1 old librarian looking lady with her glasses on the tip of her nose and her rubber stamp deciding which she should approve and deny.
I'm pretty sure this ain't far from the truth ;-)

cazz0069 Jul 22nd 2015 6:53 pm

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I did hear from Canada today to advise that they will let me know within 2 weeks if my application has been approved. Considering I applied early May that's not a bad turnaround.

Gman5 Jul 22nd 2015 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11705525)
Ah yes you too.. I booked the hotel on travel republic as it was £1 deposit & free amendment & got a good price so thought we'd take the chance as we can just move the booking.

How long you going for?

We're only going for 6 days and my conviction was 8 years ago now and haven't been in any trouble since (actually never been in trouble before until 8 years ago!)

How about you?

downundergirl Jul 23rd 2015 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11706023)
We're only going for 6 days and my conviction was 8 years ago now and haven't been in any trouble since (actually never been in trouble before until 8 years ago!)

How about you?

Mine was 22 years ago so it is spent conviction now which means limited ppl have access to my records, we are all trying to do the right and honest thing here after making a mistake which we will pay for the rest of our lives can just imagine all the people lying on the VWP and probably getting thru without a problem & we r still waitinggggg.........

mikelincs Jul 23rd 2015 2:35 am

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11706247)
Mine was 22 years ago so it is spent conviction now which means limited ppl have access to my records, we are all trying to do the right and honest thing here after making a mistake which we will pay for the rest of our lives can just imagine all the people lying on the VWP and probably getting thru without a problem & we r still waitinggggg.........

No conviction is 'spent' to the US immigration people.

lansbury Jul 23rd 2015 6:15 am

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11706247)
Mine was 22 years ago so it is spent conviction now which means limited ppl have access to my records, we are all trying to do the right and honest thing here after making a mistake which we will pay for the rest of our lives can just imagine all the people lying on the VWP and probably getting thru without a problem & we r still waitinggggg.........

When I worked at Heathrow one of my jobs was meeting Brits who had been deported back to the UK.The number who got caught at US border control was far more than I would have expected. Also during a particular security alert who were running PNC checks on all outbound US flights, the very surprising thing was how few hits we got spent or otherwise. Well below the average percentage for the UK population with criminal records.

downundergirl Jul 23rd 2015 7:32 pm

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Has anyone received the good news email this week?

bubble123 Jul 24th 2015 6:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Gman5 (Post 11706023)
We're only going for 6 days and my conviction was 8 years ago now and haven't been in any trouble since (actually never been in trouble before until 8 years ago!)

How about you?

We're hopefully going for 4 nights.

I don't understand why the embassy need to apply for new waivers every time - If nothing changes between the first, second and so on surely if one has been issued & visas used correctly the embassy could just issue the visas.

I'm sure there's a reason why, but it would take a work load of the DHS. If nothing has changed in the applicants circumstances.

I guess we just have to wait.. I really can't believe how long they are taking.

I did email the embassy the other day to ask if the time frame had changed, they replied & said they are still taking about 6 months.

bubble123 Jul 24th 2015 6:30 pm

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11705775)
Hi there that email address will only return an automated reply advising they cannot give out any information sorry it just a waiting game I'm nearly ready to Give up hope on my plans suppose to be leaving in a month today.
I am so upset & sad don't think I have read on this forum in the last couple of months anyone having their visa in their hands under 30 weeks.

Thanks, Yes I did try & got the automated reply.

We'll all just have to keep our fingers crossed & hope they are issued in time. How long have you been waiting?

Tweety23 Jul 24th 2015 8:36 pm

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11707788)
We're hopefully going for 4 nights.

I don't understand why the embassy need to apply for new waivers every time - If nothing changes between the first, second and so on surely if one has been issued & visas used correctly the embassy could just issue the visas.

I'm sure there's a reason why, but it would take a work load of the DHS. If nothing has changed in the applicants circumstances.

I guess we just have to wait.. I really can't believe how long they are taking.

I did email the embassy the other day to ask if the time frame had changed, they replied & said they are still taking about 6 months.

Couldn't agree more! It certainly seems like they have significant delays and are struggling to manage the backlog, based on other things I have read.

Has anyone got a recent experience of sending their passport in? And the time for this turnaround?

We are clinging onto the hope that an email will appear on Mon or Tues (highly unlikely I'm sure!) But as we are due to travel in under 3 weeks, wonder if it's just too late anyway...

downundergirl Jul 24th 2015 9:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Tweety23 (Post 11707839)
Couldn't agree more! It certainly seems like they have significant delays and are struggling to manage the backlog, based on other things I have read.

Has anyone got a recent experience of sending their passport in? And the time for this turnaround?

We are clinging onto the hope that an email will appear on Mon or Tues (highly unlikely I'm sure!) But as we are due to travel in under 3 weeks, wonder if it's just too late anyway...

Yes I am feeling exactly the same way every day that passes I loose a little more hope & I am guessing they do not work on the weekends! I can just not understand how dramatically the approval time has changed but I really have a bad feeling something has gone wrong in their system and there is no way of finding out but I wonder what the record for the longest wait lol the thing that frustrates me the most is WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING NOW!!! I did read on another page that the USA have no access to any other countries(except Canada) criminal records unless you are on a watch list not sure if this is correct but if so the whole system needs an overhaul!! tell the truth wait over 6 month, lie and off u go, so you have to ask yourself who the hell are they letting into their country! rant over

bubble123 Jul 24th 2015 9:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Tweety23 (Post 11707839)
Couldn't agree more! It certainly seems like they have significant delays and are struggling to manage the backlog, based on other things I have read.

Has anyone got a recent experience of sending their passport in? And the time for this turnaround?

We are clinging onto the hope that an email will appear on Mon or Tues (highly unlikely I'm sure!) But as we are due to travel in under 3 weeks, wonder if it's just too late anyway...

Not recent turn around times, but we normally expect 7 - 10 days depending on when the weekend falls maybe up to 2 weeks.

Fingers crossed for you! What week are you on?

Tweety23 Jul 24th 2015 10:56 pm

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11707876)
Not recent turn around times, but we normally expect 7 - 10 days depending on when the weekend falls maybe up to 2 weeks.

Fingers crossed for you! What week are you on?

Thanks bubble123, feels like a last ditch effort at being optimistic now... It will be 38 weeks this week and 20 days until we fly (obviously regret booking that now!) 😔

bubble123 Jul 25th 2015 4:09 am

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Originally Posted by Tweety23 (Post 11707900)
Thanks bubble123, feels like a last ditch effort at being optimistic now... It will be 38 weeks this week and 20 days until we fly (obviously regret booking that now!) 😔

38 weeks! Wow! Did you go to London?

I know what you mean, you never know what to do. We've booked in the past before & had to change our flights - may have to do that this time too!

It's a shame more people don't come on here with their time frames. I know everyone's is different but I think some people find hope if others are done sooner.

ian-mstm Jul 25th 2015 4:32 am

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Originally Posted by bubble123 (Post 11708053)
It's a shame more people don't come on here with their time frames.

I understand why you'd say this... but no, it's not.



I think some people find hope if others are done sooner.
False hope... but hope nevertheless I suppose - because, as you noted, "I know everyone's is different..." I've written about this umpteen times in this thread alone... trying to compare your timeline with someone else's is absolutely useless. If their case is finished prior to yours, you're happy for them but lose hope yourself because you think there's a reason your visa might be denied. If your case is finished prior to theirs, same result from the other side.

Nothing good, absolutely nothing good can come of trying to project your case result based on someone else's result.

Ian

downundergirl Jul 25th 2015 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 11708065)
I understand why you'd say this... but no, it's not.



False hope... but hope nevertheless I suppose - because, as you noted, "I know everyone's is different..." I've written about this umpteen times in this thread alone... trying to compare your timeline with someone else's is absolutely useless. If their case is finished prior to yours, you're happy for them but lose hope yourself because you think there's a reason your visa might be denied. If your case is finished prior to theirs, same result from the other side.

Nothing good, absolutely nothing good can come of trying to project your case result based on someone else's result.

Ian

yes this is true as every case treated individually but wld just be nice to hear of someone's being approved just so we know they are still working to get through the list(in no particular order) I guess we are all so desperate & will cling onto any hope right now 🙏

bubble123 Jul 25th 2015 3:43 pm

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11708248)
yes this is true as every case treated individually but wld just be nice to hear of someone's being approved just so we know they are still working to get through the list(in no particular order) I guess we are all so desperate & will cling onto any hope right now 🙏

Yes that's what I was thinking.

Any hope is better than none.

Tweety23 Jul 25th 2015 10:09 pm

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11708248)
yes this is true as every case treated individually but wld just be nice to hear of someone's being approved just so we know they are still working to get through the list(in no particular order) I guess we are all so desperate & will cling onto any hope right now 🙏

Yes I agree, it would be reassuring to hear that 'some' are being approved - these wait times seem excessive compared to the advertised wait times and the advice given to my husband at interview.

Ian, you have posted about 'average' wait times yourself, I think we all recognise that each case is different, but asking about passport turnaround times is helpful, it allows people to try and make an informed choice based on very limited information. For us, we are trying to establish if we should submit the passport, if (and that's a very big if) we are are lucky enough to get the email requesting it.

downundergirl Jul 25th 2015 10:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Tweety23 (Post 11708429)
Yes I agree, it would be reassuring to hear that 'some' are being approved - these wait times seem excessive compared to the advertised wait times and the advice given to my husband at interview.

Ian, you have posted about 'average' wait times yourself, I think we all recognise that each case is different, but asking about passport turnaround times is helpful, it allows people to try and make an informed choice based on very limited information. For us, we are trying to establish if we should submit the passport, if (and that's a very big if) we are are lucky enough to get the email requesting it.

Yes totally agree if I did not join this forum I would never have know people are still waiting after 38 weeks when website states conflicting info at 22 weeks, 5-6 months and then 27 weeks but could take longer well 38 is ALOT
Longer just feels like it is a big black hole at the moment! I have been to USA on two previous occasions and my circumstance have not changed which I proved yet again to the embassy with a clear police record check. good luck hope we all get some good news this week

bubble123 Jul 25th 2015 10:46 pm

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Fingers crossed for everyone!

ian-mstm Jul 25th 2015 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Tweety23 (Post 11708429)
... these wait times seem excessive compared to the advertised wait times and the advice given to my husband at interview.

The advertised wait times are false... as was the advice given to your husband. The people who interview want you to feel good about yourself... they're not interested in reality, and they're not obligated to tell you the truth.



I think we all recognise that each case is different, but asking about passport turnaround times is helpful, it allows people to try and make an informed choice based on very limited information.
Do you understand the inherent contradiction in what you just wrote? It's impossible to "make an informed choice based on very limited information." At best... you guess!

Ian

Tweety23 Jul 26th 2015 2:20 am

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 11708456)
The advertised wait times are false... as was the advice given to your husband. The people who interview want you to feel good about yourself... they're not interested in reality, and they're not obligated to tell you the truth.



Do you understand the inherent contradiction in what you just wrote? It's impossible to "make an informed choice based on very limited information." At best... you guess!

Ian

Do you understand how condescending you sound?
I don't appreciate that response Ian.

In simple terms, we are 'trying' to make the decision we feel is right for us 'based on the knowledge and information' shared by others on this forum - albeit limited.

ian-mstm Jul 26th 2015 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by Tweety23 (Post 11708574)
Do you understand how condescending you sound?

Yes, I do - but I don't really care what you think of me. While you may not like your situation, I try to keep people grounded in reality. People often don't like my direct manner... c'est la vie!

Ian

downundergirl Jul 26th 2015 10:50 am

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 11708811)
Yes, I do - but I don't really care what you think of me. While you may not like your situation, I try to keep people grounded in reality. People often don't like my direct manner... c'est la vie!

Ian

Hi Ian how many times have you been through this process as you seem to be very knowledgable about it?

BEVS Jul 26th 2015 11:10 am

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Originally Posted by downundergirl (Post 11708839)
Hi Ian how many times have you been through this process as you seem to be very knowledgable about it?

I cannot speak for Ian , but I can speak for myself.

I went through the NZ immigration process once. However, I am extremely well read with regard to NZ Immigration processes & not too bad on some aspects of UK & Oz Immy. Saddo that I am.

Anyway. I would just like to chip in with regard to timelines & turnaround times.

As is often stated all across the BE Immy forums. Timelines are very individual. They will be on a case by case basis & are only an indication of how long any one's individual timeline has been or will be.

I'd also just like to say that processing guidelines written to govt immigration websites are just that , guidelines. A practical example - it only takes a couple of staff to be off sick and the advertised timeframe goes to cock.

With regard to turnaround times. The best way to view this is to congratulate the person in receipt of whatever it is, be it passport , visa or otherwise . It will have no bearing on one's own process or case. It offers nothing by way of insight into anyone else's timeframe.

I have too often read people fretting dreadfully after having read that someone else's case ; process ; timeline or turnaround times have been altogether different or achieved.

Don't do it to yourselves.

I do hope you guys do hear something very soon.


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