Can you post what the email today said?

Here is a photo. Hopefully it has uploaded.

Sorry, read it in full now! So they are also saying about the strong ties which is the same as Cummings and Orland0 . I'm going to assume there will be a lot of these in the near future unfortunately ☹️

Has he had a waiver approved before?

It was the 2nd. What I can’t get my head around (unless I’m reading it incorrectly) is that he wasn’t even put forward for a waiver even though they said he would be. I feel like we’ve waited all this time for something that was never applied for.

Yes it reads like at towards the end. I've never seen a refusal letter so unsure if this is just normal standard text. Maybe Orland0 and Buzz25 will be able to confirm if this is the same wording they received?

Did he bring any supporting documentation with him at it interview and if he did, were copies taken by the interviewer?

I know I've had interviews where they've said they didn't need to see any of my supporting documents but if they're now using that against the applicant, that's really harsh.

Was this his first time going through this process?

The irony of the first line, referring to a "recent" application, when it was submitted over 10 months ago :-(

The most concerning and confusing thing about this letter is the implication in the final paragraph that the application was reviewed in the VCU by the consular officer and the supervisory officer, which is the documented process PRIOR to sending the request to the Admissibility Review Office in the US for the Waiver of Ineligibility to be assessed, and they only performed this assessment 10 months after the request was received, so the application never even went to the ARO.

We know from one of our other members E2LondonMarch24 that their application spent 3 months in the VCU before going to the ARO, but 10 months appears to be way beyond anything we have seen reported in our group. It would suggest 10 months in Administrative Processing, which is deeply concerning for others who are waiting.

It is possible that the letter is just a form letter which includes language and processes which may not be in the order we would expect - ultimately no one here knows the internal processes followed with the Visa unit of the US consulate. It may be that it did go to the ARO for waiver review, but in the event it is denied, they simply say it was "not recommended."

I hope that others who have previously had denials can share the notifications they received.

So sorry again for this terrible news.

jools

I assumed we would receive something from the department in the US but this one was addressed from the embassy here in London.
It was his first time applying. I researched which documents to take and prepared him but they didn’t ask to see anything. He said he was with the officer for around 2 minutes, she gave him a letter which said he’d be recommended for the waiver and sent him on his way. Thank you for your replies!

I think that's going to be the same for a lot of people. At the time of the interviews, they were probably satisfied with what they had but I'm going to assume since the change in government, rules have been tightened and what was sufficient last summer, is no longer the case now.

That paired with people booking B1/B2 appointments and being told no waiver of ineligibilities are being put forward makes for a very grim future for those that may want to travel to the US with any sort of ineligibility.

Really sad news.

Orland0 Lruppert really sorry to hear about your outcomes. It’s crazy to know that this is the same country hosting the World Cup next year yet they’re on a rampage with these denials… Even crazier to know that the single individual responsible for these drastic changes is a more recent criminal than myself! The irony

I am more and more convinced of my theory that there has been a quiet policy change/memo sent out that means waivers being granted will become very much the exception rather than the rule as they used to be.

Feel really sorry for you that have had this outcome.

i also feel extremely lucky that i got through and got my 5yr visa.

has anyone on here been approved after myself?

I think we're waiting for jackotekk and Babsy86 to confirm their outcome but all the rest have been either declined via email or passport requested and received back with a decline.

I’ve added mine to the notes section. We may just happen to notice a pattern here with this information imo

Hi,

Honestly don't want to put people under any pressure to do the same, with such an opaque system I'm not sure how much information we can gain from adding this. I will however update mine, my colleague always asks "what are you going to do with the knowledge", I would hope if anything to give an indication to others in the near future, maybe it will help someone about to apply, or help them through the wait.

if there's no objections, or anything else people think would be useful I will update as:
codes.(US immigration)
conviction type (UK law)
Note: conviction spent and now wiped from UK system