Telling it How it is.
#196
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Re: Telling it How it is.
It certainly looks that way, Roy, but given how so many have abused the system it is, in some ways, unsurprising.
Now I have to be careful how I word this sort of thing as there are many that will dive right in, and I don't really want the thread hijacked again. But the education limits were sort of in place when I moved here. I only needed a letter from my old secondary school stating that I had completed secondary education, though.
I am sorry to hear of this. There are many here who seem to struggle with spoken English, let alone written. Half of them only seemed to qualify to be here because their spouses had enough skills, and it is a pity some of them managed I suppose, given these new circumstances.
I am not sure what right of appeal these folks have, although there must be something I hope.
Now I have to be careful how I word this sort of thing as there are many that will dive right in, and I don't really want the thread hijacked again. But the education limits were sort of in place when I moved here. I only needed a letter from my old secondary school stating that I had completed secondary education, though.
I am sorry to hear of this. There are many here who seem to struggle with spoken English, let alone written. Half of them only seemed to qualify to be here because their spouses had enough skills, and it is a pity some of them managed I suppose, given these new circumstances.
I am not sure what right of appeal these folks have, although there must be something I hope.
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Re: Telling it How it is.
Ok did a bit of research, and spoke with some buddies that know a bit more about this than me, and the answers came back as follows. It is thought that because most Truck driving jobs require that you have a "high school education" this means you have passed high shool and have your diploma.ie passed. The UK equiverlent is calculated to be 5 O'levels, and its this level that was introduced at the begining of the year. This has affected many, and what most have done is by a calculator and the books and have studied on the road to take and pass the GED exam That the poster on here decided to up tail and run is his own fault IMHO.
Also what many are miss understanding is that they are being offered a TWP and therefore a temporary position, usually for 1 year. They are NOT being offered a permenant job with PR. The PR can be applied for after 6 months from a completely different goverment body.
Also what many are miss understanding is that they are being offered a TWP and therefore a temporary position, usually for 1 year. They are NOT being offered a permenant job with PR. The PR can be applied for after 6 months from a completely different goverment body.
#198
Re: Telling it How it is.
Ok did a bit of research, and spoke with some buddies that know a bit more about this than me, and the answers came back as follows. It is thought that because most Truck driving jobs require that you have a "high school education" this means you have passed high shool and have your diploma.ie passed. The UK equiverlent is calculated to be 5 O'levels, and its this level that was introduced at the begining of the year. This has affected many, and what most have done is by a calculator and the books and have studied on the road to take and pass the GED exam That the poster on here decided to up tail and run is his own fault IMHO.
Also what many are miss understanding is that they are being offered a TWP and therefore a temporary position, usually for 1 year. They are NOT being offered a permenant job with PR. The PR can be applied for after 6 months from a completely different goverment body.
Also what many are miss understanding is that they are being offered a TWP and therefore a temporary position, usually for 1 year. They are NOT being offered a permenant job with PR. The PR can be applied for after 6 months from a completely different goverment body.
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Re: Telling it How it is.
Yes we all know you can arrive with PR having gone through the 4 year wait etc. But you cant apply for PR before you arrive through the PNP system, apples and oranges here Dave, 2 different systems.
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Re: Telling it How it is.
Basicly GED encompasses all subjects at school and proves you have passed and completed high school, you can complete high school but not pass and get your diploma, which meens you havent finished high school. 5 GSE meens you have completed and passed in the UK.
#204
Re: Telling it How it is.
No one ever mentioned Manitoba PNP
#205
Re: Telling it How it is.
We ourselves had gained pnp status and applied fpr pr before arriving in Canada but had our original application returned.
Last edited by dave_lol66; Sep 13th 2011 at 10:46 pm.
#206
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As a Candidate in the long-haul trucking industry, you must also:
Be working for your Alberta Employer as a long-haul truck driver (refer to definitions above)
Show you have an Alberta Class 1 driver's license and are eligible to meet provincial regulations.
Provide a copy of your foreign driver's license which indicates C+E certification (if from Europe).
Both parts of the license must be provided. If the driver's license is not in English, it must be translated by a certified translator.
Be employed in Alberta for a minimum of six months before applying to the AINP.
Have driven in a professional capacity before coming to Canada and provide sufficient credible documentation to demonstrate your previous driving related training (hazardous goods, etc.) and work experience.
You must provide reference letters on company letterhead, dated, and signed with the title or position of the individual from the company who is providing the reference. E-mail letters are acceptable if they are sent from the e-mail account of the company that is providing the references (not hotmail, gmail or yahoo accounts). The letter must state the occupation of the employee, either HGV/LGV driver, and/or describe the work they performed which clearly indicates the equipment that was driven (articulated, semi, reefer, tanker, etc.).
Preference will be given to drivers who can demonstrate a minimum of three out of the last five years’ work experience as a HGV/LGV driver.
Taken from the official AINP website and to confirm that you CANNOT apply for PR whilst still in the UK under the AINP rules
Take no notice of dave_lol66 he is just here for an argument and serves no other purpose than to bait other members , Bit like BT then
clicky
Be working for your Alberta Employer as a long-haul truck driver (refer to definitions above)
Show you have an Alberta Class 1 driver's license and are eligible to meet provincial regulations.
Provide a copy of your foreign driver's license which indicates C+E certification (if from Europe).
Both parts of the license must be provided. If the driver's license is not in English, it must be translated by a certified translator.
Be employed in Alberta for a minimum of six months before applying to the AINP.
Have driven in a professional capacity before coming to Canada and provide sufficient credible documentation to demonstrate your previous driving related training (hazardous goods, etc.) and work experience.
You must provide reference letters on company letterhead, dated, and signed with the title or position of the individual from the company who is providing the reference. E-mail letters are acceptable if they are sent from the e-mail account of the company that is providing the references (not hotmail, gmail or yahoo accounts). The letter must state the occupation of the employee, either HGV/LGV driver, and/or describe the work they performed which clearly indicates the equipment that was driven (articulated, semi, reefer, tanker, etc.).
Preference will be given to drivers who can demonstrate a minimum of three out of the last five years’ work experience as a HGV/LGV driver.
Taken from the official AINP website and to confirm that you CANNOT apply for PR whilst still in the UK under the AINP rules
Take no notice of dave_lol66 he is just here for an argument and serves no other purpose than to bait other members , Bit like BT then
clicky
Last edited by kb33; Sep 14th 2011 at 12:34 am. Reason: added link for the non believers !
#207
Re: Telling it How it is.
As a Candidate in the long-haul trucking industry, you must also:
Be working for your Alberta Employer as a long-haul truck driver (refer to definitions above)
Show you have an Alberta Class 1 driver's license and are eligible to meet provincial regulations.
Provide a copy of your foreign driver's license which indicates C+E certification (if from Europe).
Both parts of the license must be provided. If the driver's license is not in English, it must be translated by a certified translator.
Be employed in Alberta for a minimum of six months before applying to the AINP.
Have driven in a professional capacity before coming to Canada and provide sufficient credible documentation to demonstrate your previous driving related training (hazardous goods, etc.) and work experience.
You must provide reference letters on company letterhead, dated, and signed with the title or position of the individual from the company who is providing the reference. E-mail letters are acceptable if they are sent from the e-mail account of the company that is providing the references (not hotmail, gmail or yahoo accounts). The letter must state the occupation of the employee, either HGV/LGV driver, and/or describe the work they performed which clearly indicates the equipment that was driven (articulated, semi, reefer, tanker, etc.).
Preference will be given to drivers who can demonstrate a minimum of three out of the last five years’ work experience as a HGV/LGV driver.
Taken from the official AINP website and to confirm that you CANNOT apply for PR whilst still in the UK under the AINP rules
Take no notice of dave_lol66 he is just here for an argument and serves no other purpose than to bait other members , Bit like BT then
clicky
Be working for your Alberta Employer as a long-haul truck driver (refer to definitions above)
Show you have an Alberta Class 1 driver's license and are eligible to meet provincial regulations.
Provide a copy of your foreign driver's license which indicates C+E certification (if from Europe).
Both parts of the license must be provided. If the driver's license is not in English, it must be translated by a certified translator.
Be employed in Alberta for a minimum of six months before applying to the AINP.
Have driven in a professional capacity before coming to Canada and provide sufficient credible documentation to demonstrate your previous driving related training (hazardous goods, etc.) and work experience.
You must provide reference letters on company letterhead, dated, and signed with the title or position of the individual from the company who is providing the reference. E-mail letters are acceptable if they are sent from the e-mail account of the company that is providing the references (not hotmail, gmail or yahoo accounts). The letter must state the occupation of the employee, either HGV/LGV driver, and/or describe the work they performed which clearly indicates the equipment that was driven (articulated, semi, reefer, tanker, etc.).
Preference will be given to drivers who can demonstrate a minimum of three out of the last five years’ work experience as a HGV/LGV driver.
Taken from the official AINP website and to confirm that you CANNOT apply for PR whilst still in the UK under the AINP rules
Take no notice of dave_lol66 he is just here for an argument and serves no other purpose than to bait other members , Bit like BT then
clicky
#208
Re: Telling it How it is.
Pr can be applied for and gained before even arriving in the country if using PNP
Completely confusing and misleading information.
If you want to talk about MB PNP start another thread .
#209
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The majority of UK citizens leaving high school over the past 30 odd years would have the required 5 "PASSES" of GCSE/GCE O level/CSE's BUT not all would have the grade c or above in GCSE/GCE's or grade1 in CSE that employers here look at to judge grades.
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Re: Telling it How it is.
There is a MASSIVE difference in having "passed and completed high school" and having completed high school with 5 O level/GCSE/CSE higher grades!!!!!
The majority of UK citizens leaving high school over the past 30 odd years would have the required 5 "PASSES" of GCSE/GCE O level/CSE's BUT not all would have the grade c or above in GCSE/GCE's or grade1 in CSE that employers here look at to judge grades.
The majority of UK citizens leaving high school over the past 30 odd years would have the required 5 "PASSES" of GCSE/GCE O level/CSE's BUT not all would have the grade c or above in GCSE/GCE's or grade1 in CSE that employers here look at to judge grades.