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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:12 pm
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Originally posted by tmushen
I happy to here that you got a job. Each day I get more angry because my father who is almost 80 year old (Yes he was 50 when I was born) is getting more ill. He was perfectly healthy until a few months ago and all of sudden his blood pressure went through the roof. This is on my mind and the what if scenario. It makes me so upset that I have to think about this stuff but I would like my father to see me and wife as husband and wife. Yes he has met my wife but he has never met her children or seen us together as husband and wife.
I understand that you are torn as to which way to go...cancel the K-3 or go to file DCF. I know nothing of the situation in Turkey, but as you are well aware, there are several BIG advantages to the DCF...almost immediate (conditional) permenent resident status and green card, no hassles getting SSN or Driver's License, no AOS.... All need to be considered when deciding what to do.
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:13 pm
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Originally posted by kariml
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In order to do DCF in Germany, the US citizen must hold a residency card in Germany. We had looked into it as well.

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Thanks Kari for giving us a clear answer...
that's what we thought after all our internet researches, too....even though it sounded like it was a possibility when Sid called Frankfurt consulate while he was here last year in Nov. Back then the lady answering the ph was concerned about the pending petition causing a delay. She did not tell us a perm residency was necessary...even though we were specific about my husband only visiting.
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:18 pm
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Thanks Kari for giving us a clear answer...
that's what we thought after all our internet researches, too....even though it sounded like it was a possibility when Sid called Frankfurt consulate while he was here last year in Nov. Back then the lady answering the ph was concerned about the pending petition causing a delay. She did not tell us a perm residency was necessary...even though we were specific about my husband only visiting.
Nov. 2003? Well, hey maybe they've changed their policies since we checked (which would not be unheard of). We called the consulate last Feb. or March so it has been almost a year now that I think about it. That would great for you if they have changed it! Good luck!
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:30 pm
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Originally posted by ironporer
I understand that you are torn as to which way to go...cancel the K-3 or go to file DCF. I know nothing of the situation in Turkey, but as you are well aware, there are several BIG advantages to the DCF...almost immediate (conditional) permenent resident status and green card, no hassles getting SSN or Driver's License, no AOS.... All need to be considered when deciding what to do.
Thanks for the reply. I wish I knew about the DCF when we first filed but that's one of the reasons I am angry because my lawyer told me nothing about this option. My wife already has a SSN because she used to have a green card. I guess we have to decide soon what to do.
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:32 pm
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SidAngelika wrote:

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    > Since Sid will be here this weekend we had made plans about just going
    > down to Frankfurt embassy and ask if DCF was possible. There is
    > contradicting info about Germany's requirement of US citizen residing in
    > Germany in order to do DCF.


One correction. The Embassy is in Berlin

Immigrant visas are processed at the Consulate in Frankfurt, but this
doesn't change the location of the Embassy.
 
Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:36 pm
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Originally posted by tmushen
Thanks for the reply. I wish I knew about the DCF when we first filed but that's one of the reasons I am angry because my lawyer told me nothing about this option. My wife already has a SSN because she used to have a green card. I guess we have to decide soon what to do.
Do you know anything about the timeframes in Turkey for DCF?
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:38 pm
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Thanks for the reply. I wish I knew about the DCF when we first filed but that's one of the reasons I am angry because my lawyer told me nothing about this option. My wife already has a SSN because she used to have a green card. I guess we have to decide soon what to do.
Ditto- I pulled out of the K-1 process after 120 or so days at TSC, although I can't blame it on a lawyer. By the time I found out about it in June, Spain was ceasing to accept it from non-residents the next month. Luckily, we beat the deadline by only a few days.
For us, from our initial filing to Cathy's arrival here only took 6 weeks. Wish I had known many months before, and never even thought about TSC/K-1.
Good Luck whichever way you go!
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:50 pm
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Originally posted by ironporer
Ditto- I pulled out of the K-1 process after 120 or so days at TSC, although I can't blame it on a lawyer. By the time I found out about it in June, Spain was ceasing to accept it from non-residents the next month. Luckily, we beat the deadline by only a few days.
For us, from our initial filing to Cathy's arrival here only took 6 weeks. Wish I had known many months before, and never even thought about TSC/K-1.
Good Luck whichever way you go!
Well,
hard to give you advice but maybe consider this?
Go over to Turkey with all paper work you will need for the I-130. Go to the consulate, explain your situation and ask if and how they will process. If necessary you can withdraw then and rely on a consulate officer's statement if there will be any hold-ups from their side.

As I said before....k3 filers from Germany tell us there is no DCF without permanent residency...a ph answering lady doesn't seem to see a problem, but can we rely on her statement?
we have made our decision to continue the k3 route....we had to make up our minds in order to go on. May it be wrong or right...

Not sure if that helped...maybe you got extended time to spend in turkey and talk to the consulate face-to-face...
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:55 pm
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Originally posted by kariml
Do you know anything about the timeframes in Turkey for DCF?
The Embassy said about one month from beginning to end because they grant the interview as soon as they receive the documents as long as everything that is required is sent in.
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 6:56 pm
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Originally posted by tmushen
I can't take this anymore so does anyone know how to withdraw my applications in the US so I can file in Turkey?


If it were me, I would not withdraw and file in Turkey. I would wait it out.
 
Old Jan 20th 2004, 7:03 pm
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Originally posted by Mrraveltay
SidAngelika wrote:

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    > Since Sid will be here this weekend we had made plans about just going
    > down to Frankfurt embassy and ask if DCF was possible. There is
    > contradicting info about Germany's requirement of US citizen residing in
    > Germany in order to do DCF.


One correction. The Embassy is in Berlin

Immigrant visas are processed at the Consulate in Frankfurt, but this
doesn't change the location of the Embassy.
Thanks for correcting me....since I am obsessed with my k3 I was just using embassy as a synonym for consulate.
One track mind....lol
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 7:10 pm
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Originally posted by tmushen
The Embassy said about one month from beginning to end because they grant the interview as soon as they receive the documents as long as everything that is required is sent in.
Put yourself and your wife on the safe side before making any decisions...and if by chance do it locally in Turkey.
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 7:21 pm
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Thanks for the reply. I wish I knew about the DCF when we first filed but that's one of the reasons I am angry because my lawyer told me nothing about this option. My wife already has a SSN because she used to have a green card. I guess we have to decide soon what to do.
Than you went to the wrong attorney! None of us were born with immigration knowledge and DCF is something not all attorneys know about. I believe I was one of the first to ever mention this option (DCF) on this news group (as I had read about it in one of my AILA publications and actually did one way back then), and since that time more and more people have been looking into it (in other words, there was a time when even the participants on this very group had not heard of DCF before).

Over the past couple of days, I’ve been spending some time with a brand new attorney and AILA member in helping him with his very first paying client. This new attorney is actually my senior by about 10 to 15 years, and retired from JPL laboratories a few years ago, and is now opening up his practice (his office is only a couple of blocks away from mine). I originally met him a little over a year ago (he’s been tooling up [studying, I think mostly in the employment area] since then before getting his practice started) while eating lunch in the CSC’s cafeteria (I had to hand it to him, to take the initiative to actually go to Laguna Niguel to attend the liaison meeting and take his first tour of the facility). I took an instant liking to him, as I remember how it was when “I� first got started, and the friendly AILA member who sort of took me under her wing at the very beginning of my career.

Anyway, he called about his first case, and it turns out to be a marriage based case. US citizen is currently living and going to University in Germany, and he’s married to a 3rd country national who is also currently living in Germany.

He had many questions about the I-130 filing at the CSC, and perhaps the K-3 case that could be also filed, but until I told him about DCF he had no idea that was even an option. I told him what I’ve read [in AILA publications] about the residency requirement for a U.S. citizen (in Germany) to be able to DCF, but also told him that he needs to confirm that this is still current policy. Since I first told him about it, he’s gotten his hands on an AILA visa processing guide and actually e-mailed the author yesterday (another AILA member) who wrote the chapter for Frankfurt. Apparently the guy who wrote the chapter wrote him back immediately (yesterday) saying he was in Germany and will be flying back to the U.S. today (“his� office is in Washington, DC) and invited my guy to call him later today or tomorrow. My guy will be calling him, and he’ll report to me what this guy says about today’s policy at Frankfurt (I actually told him to call Frankfurt to confirm, but he decided to try the AILA author first).

So even though my guy’s very first client chose an attorney who didn’t know squat about DCF, his client chose an attorney who took the time to do a little homework before spelling out the client’s options. I’m sure my guy (new AILA friend) will do a fine job, and I’m going to be there to help him every step along the way to help him through his first case (no charge, of course).

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Old Jan 20th 2004, 7:33 pm
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Originally posted by Matthew Udall
Than you went to the wrong attorney! None of us were born with immigration knowledge and DCF is something not all attorneys know about. I believe I was one of the first to ever mention this option (DCF) on this news group (as I had read about it in one of my AILA publications and actually did one way back then), and since that time more and more people have been looking into it (in other words, there was a time when even the participants on this very group had not heard of DCF before).

Over the past couple of days, I’ve been spending some time with a brand new attorney and AILA member in helping him with his very first paying client. This new attorney is actually my senior by about 10 to 15 years, and retired from JPL laboratories a few years ago, and is now opening up his practice (his office is only a couple of blocks away from mine). I originally met him a little over a year ago (he’s been tooling up [studying, I think mostly in the employment area] since then before getting his practice started) while eating lunch in the CSC’s cafeteria (I had to hand it to him, to take the initiative to actually go to Laguna Niguel to attend the liaison meeting and take his first tour of the facility). I took an instant liking to him, as I remember how it was when “I� first got started, and the friendly AILA member who sort of took me under her wing at the very beginning of my career.

Anyway, he called about his first case, and it turns out to be a marriage based case. US citizen is currently living and going to University in Germany, and he’s married to a 3rd country national who is also currently living in Germany.

He had many questions about the I-130 filing at the CSC, and perhaps the K-3 case that could be also filed, but until I told him about DCF he had no idea that was even an option. I told him what I’ve read [in AILA publications] about the residency requirement for a U.S. citizen (in Germany) to be able to DCF, but also told him that he needs to confirm that this is still current policy. Since I first told him about it, he’s gotten his hands on an AILA visa processing guide and actually e-mailed the author yesterday (another AILA member) who wrote the chapter for Frankfurt. Apparently the guy who wrote the chapter wrote him back immediately (yesterday) saying he was in Germany and will be flying back to the U.S. today (“his� office is in Washington, DC) and invited my guy to call him later today or tomorrow. My guy will be calling him, and he’ll report to me what this guy says about today’s policy at Frankfurt (I actually told him to call Frankfurt to confirm, but he decided to try the AILA author first).

So even though my guy’s very first client chose an attorney who didn’t know squat about DCF, his client chose an attorney who took the time to do a little homework before spelling out the client’s options. I’m sure my guy (new AILA friend) will do a fine job, and I’m going to be there to help him every step along the way to help him through his first case (no charge, of course).
Matthew, would you mind sharing what has been found out about DCF policy in Frankfurt/Germany?
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Old Jan 20th 2004, 7:35 pm
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The Embassy said about one month from beginning to end because they grant the interview as soon as they receive the documents as long as everything that is required is sent in.
How do the Condor security checks fit into that time frame?
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