UK MP murder
Jun 17th 2016 | 12:00 pm
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Jun 18th 2016 | 3:05 pm
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Re: UK MP murder
It isn't, or wasn't, about gun control in the UK. It was attitude self-control. We aren't, or weren't, the kind of culture that wanted to be armed, still less the kind of culture that thought that shooting people was an acceptable response to anger, frustration, sadness, fear, etc. etc. British culture isn't, or wasn't, like American culture. Just like Switzerland, where all the men have a gun but don't use them to shoot people. American culture apparently cannot handle being armed. British culture is, or was, different. The escalation of hysteria, fear and xenophobia of late is helping not one bit.
All mass shootings are political. They have nothing to do with the availability of guns. It's the way the powers-that-be enforce their views on the populace at large. Kinda like the dukes of medieval Europe using the knights to impose their will on the peasants when they got out of hand.
Jun 19th 2016 | 12:39 am
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Re: UK MP murder
The London riots of 2011 prove your post wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots
All mass shootings are political. They have nothing to do with the availability of guns. It's the way the powers-that-be enforce their views on the populace at large. Kinda like the dukes of medieval Europe using the knights to impose their will on the peasants when they got out of hand.
All mass shootings are political. They have nothing to do with the availability of guns. It's the way the powers-that-be enforce their views on the populace at large. Kinda like the dukes of medieval Europe using the knights to impose their will on the peasants when they got out of hand.
I think your medieval example is somewhat accurate, but the modern analogy would include Bloody Sunday massacre in Northern Ireland, Kent State shootings in the U.S. - which of course were perpetrated by the government's uniformed forces.
Jun 19th 2016 | 7:12 am
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Re: UK MP murder
Well it looks as though the Remainers are going to win the election because of this murder.
Jun 19th 2016 | 4:34 pm
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Re: UK MP murder
I'm puzzled by this. Mass shootings are perpetrated, or encouraged, by the powers that be? In developed, western countries, the "powers that be" = "the government." So the U.S., French, and British government carried out, or encouraged, Sandy Hook, Bataclan massacre, Dunblane? (Just to take three examples.)
I think your medieval example is somewhat accurate, but the modern analogy would include Bloody Sunday massacre in Northern Ireland, Kent State shootings in the U.S. - which of course were perpetrated by the government's uniformed forces.
I think your medieval example is somewhat accurate, but the modern analogy would include Bloody Sunday massacre in Northern Ireland, Kent State shootings in the U.S. - which of course were perpetrated by the government's uniformed forces.
Jun 20th 2016 | 1:27 am
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Re: UK MP murder
No, I never heard the term that you quote. I'm familiar with the concept of conspiracy theories etc., though. Clintons murdered Foster, aliens at Roswell etc.
