UK MP murder

Old Jun 16th 2016, 6:41 pm
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And I thought all the crazy people lived in the USA.

Jo Cox MP shot and stabbed to death in Birstall, W Yorkshire.
300 yards from the house that I lived in for 25 years before I moved to Texas.

If there ever was a place where nothing happened, it's Birstall. But now its going to be famous for a while I suppose.

Another senseless loss of human life, What the hell is the world coming to?
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Time to ban guns... oh wait.

In all seriousness, crazy people can be found anywhere.
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Old Jun 16th 2016, 9:35 pm
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Crazy people; people with agendas; people consumed with hatred and bigotry.

I can accept and understand killing someone in self-defense or in defense of another. But to just kill because you can? Never would defend this action.

I'm sorry that this MP died so tragically. It is a waste of life.
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From the press reports, the killer was a nice quiet guy that used to help out people with the odd gardening job. Be interested to know what tipped him over the edge. I think there is a lot of tension over immigration and the Brexit at the moment. Some people get quite worked up and she was outwardly supporting the IN vote.
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If the UK leaves Europe and hanging comes back, there's the first one for the rope
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Old Jun 17th 2016, 3:52 am
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I found this so upsetting. We're hurtling towards some kind of right-wing apocalypse and seem to be unable to put the brakes on.
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As long as it doesn't turn into the 2009 riots
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Originally Posted by mrken30 View Post
As long as it doesn't turn into the 2009 riots
I thought that was 2011?
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I think you are right, with 2011
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Was it an AR15?
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I found this so upsetting. We're hurtling towards some kind of right-wing apocalypse and seem to be unable to put the brakes on.
The Right Wing are in power. It's the moderates that are trying to change things.
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According to this article, the suspect bought manuals from a U.S. based far right wing group with practical instruction about how to make a gun from parts that you can buy in a DIY or hardware store. In a way, this shows how effective gun control is in the UK, because presumably crude homemade guns require know how and equipment, and are never going to be "automatic". However, I believe the news reports say he fired several shots..

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...p-claims#img-1
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Originally Posted by robin1234 View Post
According to this article, the suspect bought manuals from a U.S. based far right wing group with practical instruction about how to make a gun from parts that you can buy in a DIY or hardware store. In a way, this shows how effective gun control is in the UK, because presumably crude homemade guns require know how and equipment, and are never going to be "automatic". However, I believe the news reports say he fired several shots..

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...p-claims#img-1
I read it was just 2 shots. This may have been a lot worse if weapons were readily available in the uk
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Britain First is apparently making threats towards the mayor of London too now.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7047991.html
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Originally Posted by robin1234 View Post
According to this article, the suspect bought manuals from a U.S. based far right wing group with practical instruction about how to make a gun from parts that you can buy in a DIY or hardware store. In a way, this shows how effective gun control is in the UK, because presumably crude homemade guns require know how and equipment, and are never going to be "automatic". However, I believe the news reports say he fired several shots..

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...p-claims#img-1
It isn't, or wasn't, about gun control in the UK. It was attitude self-control. We aren't, or weren't, the kind of culture that wanted to be armed, still less the kind of culture that thought that shooting people was an acceptable response to anger, frustration, sadness, fear, etc. etc. British culture isn't, or wasn't, like American culture. Just like Switzerland, where all the men have a gun but don't use them to shoot people. American culture apparently cannot handle being armed. British culture is, or was, different. The escalation of hysteria, fear and xenophobia of late is helping not one bit.
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