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Nov 7th 2017, 5:55 pm
#47
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Re: Texas
People rag about the NRA being this powerhouse of influence spending hundreds of millions on behalf of gun manufacturers.
The reality is the "power" such as it is, derives from its 5 million members, who are passionate about their firearm ownership. The NRA spent less than $4 million in the last election.
The Democrats just use it as the evil behemoth.
I'm not a member myself because I hear they bombard you solicitations and junk mail.
The reality is the "power" such as it is, derives from its 5 million members, who are passionate about their firearm ownership. The NRA spent less than $4 million in the last election.
The Democrats just use it as the evil behemoth.
I'm not a member myself because I hear they bombard you solicitations and junk mail.
This is from 2014. Look at all three categories. Because I believe you only picked one there for your post.
How Loaded is the Gun Lobby? | Gunned Down: The Power of the NRA | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site
Alternatively (or as well), read this. They seem to have a different dollar amount from the one you posted, among other things.
http://www.businessinsider.com/nra-p...ontrol-2017-10
I am sure the NRA has "grassroots" support, however. That's what marketing campaigns achieve. I know, I work in marketing. And the national gun/freedom myth is nothing if not a marketing campaign.
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Nov 7th 2017, 9:01 pm
#48
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Re: Texas
You are a lying liar of lies, sitting atop your throne of lies. In a lieberry.
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Nov 8th 2017, 1:19 am
#49
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Re: Texas
Nov 8th 2017, 4:47 pm
#50
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Re: Texas
Giantaxe, you forget #6 - Plaster killers face all TV and newspaper front-pages. Ignore victims.
I walked into work today and the flag was (depressingly) flying at half mast again.
I was momentarily confused as to why, and then I remembered.
I walked into work today and the flag was (depressingly) flying at half mast again.
I was momentarily confused as to why, and then I remembered.
Nov 8th 2017, 4:49 pm
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Re: Texas
Odd, the NY Times "plastered" the face of each known victim of the Las Vegas massacre in a montage, along with descriptions of the life of many of them. Maybe you should read a better quality newspaper?
Nov 8th 2017, 9:33 pm
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Re: Texas
Sorry missed this, but basically that, quick kill, does not disappear wounded into the forest. Apart from anything else you could be trailing it for a very long time and then have the issue of getting it out.
Nov 8th 2017, 9:45 pm
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Nov 8th 2017, 10:02 pm
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You seemingly know nothing about the damage an AR15 does. Everyone in my unit much preferred that if they were shot in combat...let it be by an AK and not an M16. We saw the damage it did and how lethal it was...much more so than an AK. Any battlefield medic or surgeon would be happy to enlighten you
Nov 8th 2017, 10:06 pm
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Re: Texas
You seemingly know nothing about the damage an AR15 does. Everyone in my unit much preferred that if they were shot in combat...let it be by an AK and not an M16. We saw the damage it did and how lethal it was...much more so than an AK. Any battlefield medic or surgeon would be happy to enlighten you
I've certainly heard otherwise.
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Nov 8th 2017, 11:48 pm
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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wire...can-human-body
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Nov 8th 2017, 11:55 pm
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I'm just curious. My brother in law who works in the operating theater seems to say a .22 is significantly worse due to how badly it fragments, apparently on a completely different level to a .223
Obviously a .22 and a .223/.556 is a completely different round but it's just interesting to hear the two compared from a medical point of view.
Obviously a .22 and a .223/.556 is a completely different round but it's just interesting to hear the two compared from a medical point of view.
Nov 9th 2017, 12:15 am
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Re: Texas
I am With first hand knowledge. It has to do with a light weight projectile combined with a very high muzzle velocity. It can pulverize bone and the bullet itself can fragment sending dozens of shrapnel like fragments far from the initial wound, or it can deflect and travel from' for example, your thigh to your torso. Hitting fleshy material it causes high cavitation that damages arteries or organs. The cavitation when it hits an organ can turn the organ to mush. Do you really think the military would use it if it were not as deadly as hell. ....
Are you talking about military ammo, or civilian ammo?
The military are prohibited from using fragmenting bullets in war, because of their extreme lethality, whereas fragmenting bullets are mandatory for hunting and are therefore ubiquitous in the civilian market. Therefore the problem of "military grade weapons" in civilian hands is greatly exacerbated by the ammunition most widely available being ammo designed for its efficacy in killing deer.