Texas
Nov 7th 2017, 12:11 am
#31
Peace onion
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 5,686
Re: Texas
Cover your ears, leftists, but I'm remembering reading "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" by Justice Robert Bork, and the notion of Defining Deviancy Down.
Part of our culture is sick, frankly.
Last weekend I happened to catch a bit of Silence of the Lambs (it was on TV in our hotel room.)
I remember reading the book when I about 18, and found it dark and foreboding. I cajoled my cousin into seeing it with me (he was 25).
That movie was profoundly disturbing. There were stories (perhaps just good marketing?) of people having to be escorted to their cars, people throwing up etc. I read some article the other day where 75% of a psychologist's patients wanted to talk about Dr Lector and psychology. It was a big deal and left a big mark on the zeitgeist.
After watching the movie again, I realized the movie has completely lost its ability to shock. It's become a parody of itself. It's still a good movie, but it now seems unintentionally camp.
Back then, Lector was really sinister. An evil genius. A cultured monster and master manipulator. Throw in a mass-murderer who makes a woman suit from his victim's skin (based on Ed Gein (basis for Psycho and Leatheface) mixed with the abduction methods of Ted Bundy). It was grisly, ghastly, gross-out, chilling, horrific stuff.
But the window has shifted. It could be due to a mixture of things (9/11, the horrific beheading videos from Falluja and ISIS, the internet, torture porn movies like Hotel, events like Columbine.) Reality eclipsed the horror and thrillers of just a few years ago. We're blase about mass-murders now (not that they actually occur any more frequently. It's just the MSM pees itself and crosses its fingers that the next shooter outdoes the record bodycount, and the horror, glorifying the shooters and ensuring the a repetition.
This culture (and I blame Hollywood primarily) glamorizes violence and makes it sexy. It's awful. We've all become so desensitized.
Part of our culture is sick, frankly.
Last weekend I happened to catch a bit of Silence of the Lambs (it was on TV in our hotel room.)
I remember reading the book when I about 18, and found it dark and foreboding. I cajoled my cousin into seeing it with me (he was 25).
That movie was profoundly disturbing. There were stories (perhaps just good marketing?) of people having to be escorted to their cars, people throwing up etc. I read some article the other day where 75% of a psychologist's patients wanted to talk about Dr Lector and psychology. It was a big deal and left a big mark on the zeitgeist.
After watching the movie again, I realized the movie has completely lost its ability to shock. It's become a parody of itself. It's still a good movie, but it now seems unintentionally camp.
Back then, Lector was really sinister. An evil genius. A cultured monster and master manipulator. Throw in a mass-murderer who makes a woman suit from his victim's skin (based on Ed Gein (basis for Psycho and Leatheface) mixed with the abduction methods of Ted Bundy). It was grisly, ghastly, gross-out, chilling, horrific stuff.
But the window has shifted. It could be due to a mixture of things (9/11, the horrific beheading videos from Falluja and ISIS, the internet, torture porn movies like Hotel, events like Columbine.) Reality eclipsed the horror and thrillers of just a few years ago. We're blase about mass-murders now (not that they actually occur any more frequently. It's just the MSM pees itself and crosses its fingers that the next shooter outdoes the record bodycount, and the horror, glorifying the shooters and ensuring the a repetition.
This culture (and I blame Hollywood primarily) glamorizes violence and makes it sexy. It's awful. We've all become so desensitized.
Nov 7th 2017, 12:54 am
#32
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Nov 7th 2017, 1:32 am
#33
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 72,573
Re: Texas
Cover your ears, leftists, but I'm remembering reading "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" by Justice Robert Bork, and the notion of Defining Deviancy Down.
Part of our culture is sick, frankly.
Last weekend I happened to catch a bit of Silence of the Lambs (it was on TV in our hotel room.)
I remember reading the book when I about 18, and found it dark and foreboding. I cajoled my cousin into seeing it with me (he was 25).
That movie was profoundly disturbing. There were stories (perhaps just good marketing?) of people having to be escorted to their cars, people throwing up etc. I read some article the other day where 75% of a psychologist's patients wanted to talk about Dr Lector and psychology. It was a big deal and left a big mark on the zeitgeist.
After watching the movie again, I realized the movie has completely lost its ability to shock. It's become a parody of itself. It's still a good movie, but it now seems unintentionally camp.
Back then, Lector was really sinister. An evil genius. A cultured monster and master manipulator. Throw in a mass-murderer who makes a woman suit from his victim's skin (based on Ed Gein (basis for Psycho and Leatheface) mixed with the abduction methods of Ted Bundy). It was grisly, ghastly, gross-out, chilling, horrific stuff.
But the window has shifted. It could be due to a mixture of things (9/11, the horrific beheading videos from Falluja and ISIS, the internet, torture porn movies like Hotel, events like Columbine.) Reality eclipsed the horror and thrillers of just a few years ago. We're blase about mass-murders now (not that they actually occur any more frequently. It's just the MSM pees itself and crosses its fingers that the next shooter outdoes the record bodycount, and the horror, glorifying the shooters and ensuring the a repetition.
This culture (and I blame Hollywood primarily) glamorizes violence and makes it sexy. It's awful. We've all become so desensitized.
Part of our culture is sick, frankly.
Last weekend I happened to catch a bit of Silence of the Lambs (it was on TV in our hotel room.)
I remember reading the book when I about 18, and found it dark and foreboding. I cajoled my cousin into seeing it with me (he was 25).
That movie was profoundly disturbing. There were stories (perhaps just good marketing?) of people having to be escorted to their cars, people throwing up etc. I read some article the other day where 75% of a psychologist's patients wanted to talk about Dr Lector and psychology. It was a big deal and left a big mark on the zeitgeist.
After watching the movie again, I realized the movie has completely lost its ability to shock. It's become a parody of itself. It's still a good movie, but it now seems unintentionally camp.
Back then, Lector was really sinister. An evil genius. A cultured monster and master manipulator. Throw in a mass-murderer who makes a woman suit from his victim's skin (based on Ed Gein (basis for Psycho and Leatheface) mixed with the abduction methods of Ted Bundy). It was grisly, ghastly, gross-out, chilling, horrific stuff.
But the window has shifted. It could be due to a mixture of things (9/11, the horrific beheading videos from Falluja and ISIS, the internet, torture porn movies like Hotel, events like Columbine.) Reality eclipsed the horror and thrillers of just a few years ago. We're blase about mass-murders now (not that they actually occur any more frequently. It's just the MSM pees itself and crosses its fingers that the next shooter outdoes the record bodycount, and the horror, glorifying the shooters and ensuring the a repetition.
This culture (and I blame Hollywood primarily) glamorizes violence and makes it sexy. It's awful. We've all become so desensitized.
And the country tries to satisfy itself by going shopping. But of course it cannot.
Nov 7th 2017, 1:38 am
#35
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Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 72,573
Re: Texas
Nov 7th 2017, 1:24 pm
#36
Sad old Crinkly Member
Joined: Oct 2003
Location: Tallahassee, Florida
Posts: 807
Re: Texas
Nothing will change,
Hell some asshole shot 23 elememtary school kids and nothing changed.
This has just become the norm, Octang is right we have become desensitized.
God forbid we see a nipple on tv, but mass shootings, that's fine.
Lucky for some of those pepole in the church that the NRA taught him to be such a bad marksman. 400 + rounds and only 20 + dead.
Hell some asshole shot 23 elememtary school kids and nothing changed.
This has just become the norm, Octang is right we have become desensitized.
God forbid we see a nipple on tv, but mass shootings, that's fine.
Lucky for some of those pepole in the church that the NRA taught him to be such a bad marksman. 400 + rounds and only 20 + dead.
Nov 7th 2017, 1:47 pm
#37
WTF?
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Homeostasis
Posts: 79,369
Re: Texas
Nothing will change,
Hell some asshole shot 23 elememtary school kids and nothing changed.
This has just become the norm, Octang is right we have become desensitized.
God forbid we see a nipple on tv, but mass shootings, that's fine.
Lucky for some of those pepole in the church that the NRA taught him to be such a bad marksman. 400 + rounds and only 20 + dead.
Hell some asshole shot 23 elememtary school kids and nothing changed.
This has just become the norm, Octang is right we have become desensitized.
God forbid we see a nipple on tv, but mass shootings, that's fine.
Lucky for some of those pepole in the church that the NRA taught him to be such a bad marksman. 400 + rounds and only 20 + dead.
Nov 7th 2017, 2:36 pm
#39
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 72,573
Re: Texas
Ironic, given that this was the gun this particular murderer used.
https://www.nrablog.com/articles/201...popular-rifle/
Last edited by Lion in Winter; Nov 7th 2017 at 2:39 pm.
Nov 7th 2017, 3:08 pm
#40
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Re: Texas
As we know, the NRA spends vast sums of money on lobbying. Why do those who profess to hate influence peddling not complain when the NRA does it? Does the NRA not have an email account or something?
Ironic, given that this was the gun this particular murderer used.
https://www.nrablog.com/articles/201...popular-rifle/
Ironic, given that this was the gun this particular murderer used.
https://www.nrablog.com/articles/201...popular-rifle/
But it is Black.
Nov 7th 2017, 4:41 pm
#41
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Re: Texas
I wonder what percentage on the congregation were NRA members.
Nov 7th 2017, 4:51 pm
#43
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Joined: Feb 2015
Location: Denver, CO.
Posts: 1,523
Re: Texas
As Boiler said, probably very few.
For a lot of NRA members, they just want the free sticker to stick on their truck and the free luggage you get when signing up. Just because you're a member of the NRA doesn't mean you're a redneck or an idiot.
The entire gun and NRA argument is a waste of pressure on a keyboard.
For a lot of NRA members, they just want the free sticker to stick on their truck and the free luggage you get when signing up. Just because you're a member of the NRA doesn't mean you're a redneck or an idiot.
The entire gun and NRA argument is a waste of pressure on a keyboard.
Nov 7th 2017, 5:03 pm
#44
Peace onion
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 5,686
Re: Texas
People rag about the NRA being this powerhouse of influence spending hundreds of millions on behalf of gun manufacturers.
The reality is the "power" such as it is, derives from its 5 million members, who are passionate about their firearm ownership. The NRA spent less than $4 million in the last election.
The Democrats just use it as the evil behemoth.
I'm not a member myself because I hear they bombard you solicitations and junk mail.
The reality is the "power" such as it is, derives from its 5 million members, who are passionate about their firearm ownership. The NRA spent less than $4 million in the last election.
The Democrats just use it as the evil behemoth.
I'm not a member myself because I hear they bombard you solicitations and junk mail.
Nov 7th 2017, 5:25 pm
#45
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Re: Texas
Wow, I am going to have to lay down in my safe space, not used to seeing sense on this subject.