Moving to America despite hating it
#136
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: bute
Posts: 9,740
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
Tell her you will compromise by taking a job in a country near the USA. I recommend Cuba.
#137
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
First of all TMR:
Whew!...... because:
1) Relieved you took what I offered in the spirit it was intended. People can often be hyper-touchy if one ventures into the realm of the personal.
2) You had the grace to reply. I never cease being dismayed at how many people come to post here seeking help and then never even bother to return to acknowledge the replies they receive, or the time and effort it has taken to try to help them.
So a big thanks TMR, for your thanks!
With regard to what you say…..
More than “something”…it’s probably the most important thing, isn't it?
It’s WHY you’d be making this move in the first place.
But then, what does “considering” your marriage really entail?
Seems to me it should involve considering yourself and your wife as both separate entities, as well as… as a couple.
And then a consideration of equities and trade-offs……
But should “reciprocating” require divesting yourself of your profession?
I find that troubling.
Would you even be dreaming of turning your back on something to which you've been committed for the last 15 (?) years (practically 1/2 your lifetime) were you not in this marriage? That’s not to imply you’re bonded to this profession. But to have to turn your back on it? Your wife wasn’t required to give her profession up in Britain, was she? In fact, it was her very profession which brought her to the UK in the first place.
And does "reciprocating" involve your wife's relinquishment of the time she's amassed toward being able to obtain British citizenship - thereby complicating a future return to Great Britain?
That sounds a sensible plan.
Or maybe this (?)……
Taking the New York Bar as a Foreign Lawyer | Study Law in the US
THE NYS BAR EXAM
Just a thought for the “back burner” if the job market “test” result turns out not to be as positive as you’d like.
….which gives me an opportunity to end on a positive note
Wonderful people (and your wife is obviously wonderful for you) have wonderful people as friends. Like minded, great people with similar outlooks. And so you should find yourself readily embraced by a community in which you’ll feel comfortable and “at home” - even tho it’s in maybe-not-so-bad-after-all America.
So.....C'mon in......the waters fine
Whew!...... because:
1) Relieved you took what I offered in the spirit it was intended. People can often be hyper-touchy if one ventures into the realm of the personal.
2) You had the grace to reply. I never cease being dismayed at how many people come to post here seeking help and then never even bother to return to acknowledge the replies they receive, or the time and effort it has taken to try to help them.
So a big thanks TMR, for your thanks!
With regard to what you say…..
It’s WHY you’d be making this move in the first place.
But then, what does “considering” your marriage really entail?
Seems to me it should involve considering yourself and your wife as both separate entities, as well as… as a couple.
And then a consideration of equities and trade-offs……
I find that troubling.
Would you even be dreaming of turning your back on something to which you've been committed for the last 15 (?) years (practically 1/2 your lifetime) were you not in this marriage? That’s not to imply you’re bonded to this profession. But to have to turn your back on it? Your wife wasn’t required to give her profession up in Britain, was she? In fact, it was her very profession which brought her to the UK in the first place.
And does "reciprocating" involve your wife's relinquishment of the time she's amassed toward being able to obtain British citizenship - thereby complicating a future return to Great Britain?
Or maybe this (?)……
Taking the New York Bar as a Foreign Lawyer | Study Law in the US
THE NYS BAR EXAM
Just a thought for the “back burner” if the job market “test” result turns out not to be as positive as you’d like.
Wonderful people (and your wife is obviously wonderful for you) have wonderful people as friends. Like minded, great people with similar outlooks. And so you should find yourself readily embraced by a community in which you’ll feel comfortable and “at home” - even tho it’s in maybe-not-so-bad-after-all America.
So.....C'mon in......the waters fine
#138
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
She's got more than 28 days....but it's all meaningless as she can only bank a small amount and it's use or lose and she's never able to use the whole amount due to staffing issues.
Me, I get as much time off as I want, but then it's not paid.
As for the regional comment, yes, it is regional. My friends out in CA area get much better benefits and allowances than friends in and around the north east, for the tech/science industry. Pay too....but it's balanced out by much higher cost of living out there for a family home, so a lot of young folks like heading there for the money, but a lot of the more senior folks seem to like moving back for family reasons.
Last edited by Bob; Aug 31st 2014 at 10:16 pm.
#139
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
For you, the career issue could be a big challenge ... for me, the job was almost everything.
#140
Forum Regular
Joined: Aug 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 61
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
I've worked in the tech industry in the US for over 23 years, as have multiple friends of mine. Most of us have job hopped over the years, but I'd say the average vacation allowance is probably 15 days a year (plus holidays). A few people I know get 20, a few 10.
#141
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
I think Portland is a fabulous little city. If you like big cities then Maine is not for you. Also you must be able to cope with a lot of snow and cold (we cope by skiing and snowshoeing at weekends). The summers make up for it IMO...
#142
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
My husband works for a an IT company (service supplier and hardware manufacturer) and gets similar.
#143
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 22,105
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
The (v large) bank I work for give 20 days from the get go, with 12 sick days and 2 personal days, and 8 bank holidays. It doesn't rise above the 20 days until many years service (think 15 to 20 can't remember).
My husband works for a an IT company (service supplier and hardware manufacturer) and gets similar.
My husband works for a an IT company (service supplier and hardware manufacturer) and gets similar.
#144
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
The (v large) bank I work for give 20 days from the get go, with 12 sick days and 2 personal days, and 8 bank holidays. It doesn't rise above the 20 days until many years service (think 15 to 20 can't remember).
My husband works for a an IT company (service supplier and hardware manufacturer) and gets similar.
My husband works for a an IT company (service supplier and hardware manufacturer) and gets similar.
#145
Account Closed
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 0
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
Suppose it depends on how professional is defined as well. In the US just way to many variables involved when it comes to time off to really get an accurate estimate.
For every person who gets 10-15 days off, there is another who gets none or very little. Great for those who manage to get time off, not so great for those who don't.
For every person who gets 10-15 days off, there is another who gets none or very little. Great for those who manage to get time off, not so great for those who don't.
#146
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
In my last job I started on 23 days PTO, then went up to 28. If I'd stayed 10 years I'd have got 33 days. I've had two previous jobs in the US (Seattle, high tech) and had 25 days PTO in both.
OTOH I recently turned down an interview with another similar local company because they were only offering 15 days.
Husband started on 20 days and now gets 25.
OTOH I recently turned down an interview with another similar local company because they were only offering 15 days.
Husband started on 20 days and now gets 25.
#147
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
Working in the UK office of a medium sized silicon valley company I get 20 days PTO + 1day per year for first 10 years. Which is pretty poor by Brit standards, but when I queried it during the job offer stage was told that it was a common benefits package worldwide.
Its a globalized economy..
Its a globalized economy..
#148
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
In general vacation entitlement is relatively low.
There are many professionals who work in small to mid range high tech companies all across the US who start on a 10 days a year. And I'm talking about employees who are required to have advanced technical degrees, who work in leading edge companies and can't afford to have their most competent employees take too much time off as many projects are time critical.
In fact I'd estimate that that is the norm.
And I have experience with many high tech professional companies.
(Larger companies and/or certain sectors may differ but those are not the norm.)
This article lays it out fairly well.
https://suite.io/elaine-mink/4n1b2r0
There are many professionals who work in small to mid range high tech companies all across the US who start on a 10 days a year. And I'm talking about employees who are required to have advanced technical degrees, who work in leading edge companies and can't afford to have their most competent employees take too much time off as many projects are time critical.
In fact I'd estimate that that is the norm.
And I have experience with many high tech professional companies.
(Larger companies and/or certain sectors may differ but those are not the norm.)
This article lays it out fairly well.
https://suite.io/elaine-mink/4n1b2r0
Last edited by Hotscot; Sep 2nd 2014 at 4:11 pm.
#149
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
The problem is, I can't stand America. The politics are messed up, even pre-9/11 (I remember when NYC renamed a street corner after a convicted IRA killer) and the lack of universal healthcare and gun control sickens me. I love Europe's rich history. The idea of spending my reduced vacation allowance in eg Florida rather than France or Italy holds no appeal.
Healthcare is a bit more of an issue but this depends on how ill you are, from the sounds of it your wife will have a top rate employer paid for plan so I wouldn't worry about it.
America has a rich history too although I agree there aren't castles everywhere. And nothing is stopping you from visiting Europe. Plenty of places to visit pretty close to NYC as well that are decent, e.g. Montréal is not that far away. Québec City, Niagara Falls and so on.
#150
Re: Moving to America despite hating it
That's your actual problem right there, because British legal qualifications aren't worth anything in the US as the legal system is considerably different. Unless you can find a company that does a lot of business in the UK or Bermuda or something like that. There is a transition course you can do for Canada, ask Almost Canadian, he's the expert on that subject, but once again, you'd need a job dealing with Canada.