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Old Jan 6th 2017 | 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
Its shocking. The best argument is that it will stop bullying, which is no better than blaming victims of bullying. When do these kids get to look? I dont think many schools have sports where they change in front of each other or take showers together any more.
Some US girls find a foreskin fascinating, maybe he would end making some of the boys jealous.

All surgical procedures have risks, why take unnecessary risks?

Long-term problems can include:

Damage to the opening of the urethra, which leads from the bladder to the tip of the penis (meatal stenosis).
Scarring of the penis from infection or surgical error. For example:
The entire foreskin may not be removed, leaving portions of it attached to the penis (skin bridge). This may cause pain during erection.
Scar tissue can grow outward toward the tip of the penis from the cut edge of the foreskin. Repeat surgery on the penis may be required to improve appearance or to allow normal passage of urine if the opening from the bladder has been blocked by this scar tissue.
The outer skin layer (or layers) of the penis may be removed accidentally.
An opening that is too small for the foreskin to retract over the penis (phimosis) can happen if too little foreskin is removed.
Major problems are very rare but can include:

The removal of more skin from the penis than the doctor intended.
Too much bleeding. Stitches may be needed to stop the bleeding.
Serious, life-threatening bacterial infection.
Partial or full removal (amputation) of the tip of the penis. (This is extremely rare.)

Remember this is the country that murders people slowly by injection and pulls the claws out of animals. This is what we call civilization.

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Old Jan 6th 2017 | 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by Nutek
.... Disgusting practice.
This! That's all.

It shouldn't be legal unless either (i) medically necessary or (ii) requested in adulthood by the owner of the penis.

I suspect that much of the issue in stamping out the procedure in the US is that it would infringe on a certain well-connected minority's "religious freedom".
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by Wintersong
If you throw enough darts, some are bound to stick...
So you object to the end being cut off, but you are quite happy to throw darts at it.
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by lansbury
So you object to the end being cut off, but you are quite happy to throw darts at it.
Only with full disclosure
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by lansbury
but you are quite happy to throw darts at it.
It's just a little prick...
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by Nutek
It's just a little prick...
Speak for yourself!
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:11 am
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I would ban tattoos and body-piercings as well. And make intolerance a capital offence.
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by PetrifiedExPat
I (UK citizen) am in an awkward position. I am thoroughly against the practice, due to my links to the medical field and view on basic human rights. My wife (US citizen) has two sisters who routinely circumcised their kids, as is 'normal' here. She is adamant its fine and the child (just to be clear, son) will be bullied if we do not do it.

I do not want a huge Thanksgiving style row with her family over the matter, either. Not sure how to proceed. I feel I am fighting against a cultural norm. here, one that has no scientific reason (apart form reduced male to female HIV transmission rates, according to published literature).
Her family has no say and really no right to even be aware of what you do. It sounds like his highest risk of bullying is actually coming from your in-laws.

I have two nephews born in the US. One was circumcised, one was not. Neither had any problems. Both are now adults.
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
Its shocking. The best argument is that it will stop bullying, which is no better than blaming victims of bullying. When do these kids get to look? I dont think many schools have sports where they change in front of each other or take showers together any more.
I think it's crap. My father wasn't circumcised, there was no doctor around in the deep woods of Maine that day when he was born. The nurses who delivered him didn't know how to do the procedure.

I dated an American male who was born in Dallas and he wasn't circumcised. He was born in the 50s and his mother didn't feel well and postponed the "procedure". Apparently she just never got around to it and everything was fine ... forever. His brothers were both circumcised. The only bullying he ever received was from his own brothers because nobody else ever saw his dick until he started having sex with women --- I didn't complain because it was no big deal and he was frikkin gorgeous.

This is all anecdotal but, as Wintersong stated, it's no unusual at all in the US.
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I think it's crap. My father wasn't circumcised, there was no doctor around in the deep woods of Maine that day when he was born. The nurses who delivered him didn't know how to do the procedure.

I dated an American male who was born in Dallas and he wasn't circumcised. He was born in the 50s and his mother didn't feel well and postponed the "procedure". Apparently she just never got around to it and everything was fine ... forever. His brothers were both circumcised. The only bullying he ever received was from his own brothers because nobody else ever saw his dick until he started having sex with women --- I didn't complain because it was no big deal and he was frikkin gorgeous.

This is all anecdotal but, as Wintersong stated, it's no unusual at all in the US.
A guy I dated (who shall remain nameless, as there's a slight possibility that he might read this and be be mad at me for mentioning it, and I hate it when my husband's mad at me) apologised to me for his state of intact-ness. I couldn't work out why he would do so, but then I moved over here and it all made perfect sense
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by Nutek
It's just a little prick...
even more reason not to shorten it.
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by Wintersong
A guy I dated (who shall remain nameless, as there's a slight possibility that he might read this and be be mad at me for mentioning it, and I hate it when my husband's mad at me) apologised to me for his state of intact-ness. I couldn't work out why he would do so, but then I moved over here and it all made perfect sense
The guy I dated didn't mention it and I didn't notice for a while. For quite a while, I only saw it when it was hard and I couldn't tell the difference.
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The guy I dated didn't mention it and I didn't notice for a while. For quite a while, I only saw it when it was hard and I couldn't tell the difference.
Let's face it - with or without the extra skin, they're pretty bloody ugly things anyway
 
Old Jan 6th 2017 | 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by Wintersong
Let's face it - with or without the extra skin, they're pretty bloody ugly things anyway. .....
They're best hidden!
 
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Originally Posted by Wintersong
Let's face it - with or without the extra skin, they're pretty bloody ugly things anyway
The dick can be pretty, it's the balls that ruin the picture.
 


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