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Old Jul 17th 2008, 10:18 pm
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I should agree, with some of you guys, on here, i feel that yes you will be close to family but also, there is a cost element as to why you may have decided to give birth in the uk.

As recently I was in the hospital, and the guy in the bed next to me was now living in canada but only came to the uk to have his heart operation on the NHS and to go back to canada as soon as is ok but yet was blaming immigrants for the state of the NHS.

What was so ironic, much of the medical team who was looking after him were so called imigrants, so I had to make clear to him, he himself is an immigrant who is now living in canada, and two the NHS is in the state, because he for one is just abusing it.

Just like janette on the previous post commented, it would be so much easier and cheaper for your mum and even your dad to travel to america, less stress for you and your baby, your husband, so it does come to cost of Healthcare of coming to the uk, THE NHS....
How ironic.

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Old Jul 17th 2008, 10:43 pm
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I can understand you wanting to be with your family when you give birth, and I have no idea about the immigration issues I'm afraid, but I did just want to say that you'd probably have to come over earlier than a month before your due date.

Most airlines won't take you after you are 7 months pregnant - when I was 7.5 months pregnant with my daughter I wanted to fly from London to Scotland for a funeral and really, really struggled with finding one that would take me, despite a doctors note. And that was only an hours flight!

So just a word of warning! Think you'd have to go before you were 34 weeks pregnant to stand any chance. Added to which, the thought of a 7/9/11 hour flight when 8 months pregnant really doesn't bear thinking about, I couldn't even sit in a car for more than an hour!!

Best of luck with it all.
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I was just wondering ... I'm paying National Insurance (opted to do so when I moved here) - it's about 200quid a year. I thought that if I was paying my national insurance I would be covered on the NHS etc when I go back to the UK. Perhaps OP is doing that?
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Old Jul 18th 2008, 12:04 am
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I was just wondering ... I'm paying National Insurance (opted to do so when I moved here) - it's about 200quid a year. I thought that if I was paying my national insurance I would be covered on the NHS etc when I go back to the UK. Perhaps OP is doing that?
National Insurance contributions play no role in NHS eligibility. It's up to the hospital to request evidence that the patient is entitled to NHS treatment. See here

Eligibility for free hospital treatment under the NHS

There is a possibility that the OP may have to pay for her treatment. If they ask to see proof of residence I doubt her Yorkshire accent will suffice.
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Old Jul 18th 2008, 12:49 am
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Thank you for everyone's advice.

I was unaware of such limitations of the 3 month clause on the NHS, however since moving here under the advise of my father i have been paying on a yearly basis National insurance. Since i am still not able to use the NHS. i assume thier are no such limitations going private?

Perhaps i will have to have my family come here. i really just wanted to be with my whole family instead of just mother and i had hoped my child would be British.
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Old Jul 18th 2008, 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by leedsbird
Thank you for everyone's advice.

I was unaware of such limitations of the 3 month clause on the NHS, however since moving here under the advise of my father i have been paying on a yearly basis National insurance. Since i am still not able to use the NHS. i assume thier are no such limitations going private?

Perhaps i will have to have my family come here. i really just wanted to be with my whole family instead of just mother and i had hoped my child would be British.
You're welcome.

I certainly understand that you want your family with you - I hope all goes smoothly for you.
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Old Jul 18th 2008, 12:58 am
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Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:

First of all, I noted you did not ask about the cost. Although on that score, I wonder if your US insurance would cover you or that NHS would even ask.

I was recently in Canada and I was curious, I was informed by lay hotel staff that I would be covered for emergency health care. Inasmuch as I was carrying my Kaiser-Permanente card, I inquired if Canada NHS would bill Kaiser and no one knew. I just might take time to ask Kaiser

Good luck.

If my experience is an indication of how things work generally in Canada re US healthcare, NO. I was refused treatment at a hopsital's ER in Nova Scotia and told I would have to find a private doctor and/or a private medical clinic for care. I found a clinic and they would not take my Blue Cross/Blue Shield, demanded payment upfront and if I wanted, I could ask BC/BS for a reimbursement. The doctor also refused to listen to my concerns about the type of drug he was prescribing and of course, it did nothing for the condition it was prescribed for. I had to see my own physican in the US for the correct treatment and this is after the fact that the condition was borderline pneumonia by this time. Same with the costs of the prescriptions.
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Originally Posted by leedsbird
Thank you for everyone's advice.

I was unaware of such limitations of the 3 month clause on the NHS, however since moving here under the advise of my father i have been paying on a yearly basis National insurance. Since i am still not able to use the NHS. i assume thier are no such limitations going private?

Perhaps i will have to have my family come here. i really just wanted to be with my whole family instead of just mother and i had hoped my child would be British.
The National Insurance contributions you are paying are for the UK pension.
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Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:
I was recently in Canada and I was curious, I was informed by lay hotel staff that I would be covered for emergency health care. Inasmuch as I was carrying my Kaiser-Permanente card, I inquired if Canada NHS would bill Kaiser and no one knew. I just might take time to ask Kaiser
A lot of US insurance doesn't work at all outside of the US, I certainly would not presume it does.

Hence why travel insurance exists.
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Old Jul 18th 2008, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by Tracym
A lot of US insurance doesn't work at all outside of the US, I certainly would not presume it does.

Hence why travel insurance exists.
Hi:

I recommend she check out the issues on payment NOW.
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Originally Posted by leedsbird

Perhaps i will have to have my family come here. i really just wanted to be with my whole family instead of just mother and i had hoped my child would be British.
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Ah, an implied new question!

We have been discussing the issue if your British born child will also be a US citizen. However, we have NOT discussed the flip side -- if your child is born in the US, will they ALSO acquire UK citizenship?

I really can't speak for current law -- but I can say that I have a brother-in-law who acquired British residence and later citizenship by his marriage to an Englishwoman born in California to British parents. Fiona was born with dual nationality. However, she was born in 1963 and the rules may have changed.
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Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:

Ah, an implied new question!

We have been discussing the issue if your British born child will also be a US citizen. However, we have NOT discussed the flip side -- if your child is born in the US, will they ALSO acquire UK citizenship?

I really can't speak for current law -- but I can say that I have a brother-in-law who acquired British residence and later citizenship by his marriage to an Englishwoman born in California to British parents. Fiona was born with dual nationality. However, she was born in 1963 and the rules may have changed.
The child will be British if born in the US as long as Leedsbird was herself born or naturalised in the UK.

She should register the birth with the British Consulate as this is the best proof of British citizenship (i.e. not just get a British passport).
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Originally Posted by Elvira
The child will be British if born in the US as long as Leedsbird was herself born or naturalised in the UK.

She should register the birth with the British Consulate as this is the best proof of British citizenship (i.e. not just get a British passport).
Are you sure this is true? I've been a bit lazy into looking into this for my family but me and the wife are British born and on green cards here. Since being here we have carved off a 1 and 2 year old. They have US passports which we plan to use to travel to the UK in September. Are you saying they are/can be british Citizens too? and get a UK passport?

I'm trying to think of situation in which it would be of benefit for my kids to be british citizens???
maybe if the wife divorces me and wants to run back to the UK with the kids
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I'm trying to think of situation in which it would be of benefit for my kids to be british citizens?
You need to think 20 years from now... when they find themselves a nice UK friend and want to settle down. Much easier not having to deal with immigration, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
You need to think 20 years from now... when they find themselves a nice UK friend and want to settle down. Much easier not having to deal with immigration, don't you think?

Ian
Or would just like to work and travel in Europe any time they want.

I wish I had the option!
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