robin1234

Thank g-d for Zoom!

Lion in Winter

Neither she nor Biden are remotely "left". They may be classed as "liberal" on some issues, by some people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53728050

johnwoo

Any one of the potential candidates would be better than Trump/Pence.
So yes cautiously optimistic, even happier if that gang of crooks and liars in the WH are thrown into the dustbin of history.

Giantaxe

Your first post on this thread since November 2018 .

MMcD

Thank Google for Search...

Trump contributions to "Nasty", "Mean", "Horrible" Kamala Harris's California Atty. General campaigns:

2011 - $5000 (Donald)
2013 - $1000 (Donald)
2014 - $2000 (Ivanka)
Total $8000
so...Ignore his tongue and...
Follow his money (which probably came not from his pocket, but from the coffers of the "Trump Charitable Foundation" - just like "his" VA donation )

johnwoo

You know how there are people that will hide under the table at the very mention of the word liberal. All that healthcare for all scary stuff. A living wage

tom169

Long time listener, second time caller?

Steerpike

Since wikipedia is open to edits by all (by default), this happens all the time with politicians. I believe they have a special category they can apply to certain people whereby they stop the process of allowing the general public to update the page. Standard Operating Procedure.

Oakvillian

Quite. And it's also worth noting that the article Boiler so helpfully links, with all-caps headline and everything, shouting in a way that suggests this is (a) new news and (b) surprising, is over a month old and refers to a phenomenon which has been happening with every public figure's Wikipedia page since Wikipedia began, especially pages for politicians.

Equally unsurprisingly, this is such an acknowledged circumstance on Wikipedia that it has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring. A summary of the actions taken on Kamala Harris's page, per standard Wikipedia edit policy for people in the news, can be read by anybody on the talk page for her entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kamala_Harris

Nice attempt, Boiler. Troll on elsewhere, you may get a bigger bite...

Steerpike

Sadly, I think his handlers have stuck him here on BE and we are stuck with him. I'm sure BE is viewed as not the most fertile ground for sowing the seeds of discontent, so we are stuck with his feeble efforts I imagine ...

UkWinds5353

The excitement is building just as I said would happen.
I said many months ago(14 months) that Biden would win the nomination because he was the one candidate that Trump would struggle to successfully slander. I also said that if Biden picked Harris that decision would go a long ways in creating the "Obama Effect".

Generating excitement, making people feel invested in their country and especially those people that are minorities, folks who are son's and daughter's of first or second generation Americans, Women voters and most especially people that have been harmed by Trump's actions in office. That last one probably includes all of us.

Here in Florida there is a lot of positive feedback from independent voters that love the idea that Harris is the daughter of first generation American parents. That seems to be a very big deal for many people that responded in the last 24 hours.
Btw, Trump & Co are having a very difficult time trying to define Harris. Her being the Top cop in the most populated state in America is not easily seen as a far left liberal involvement. Kamala was in charge of 7,000 district Attorneys across the state of California as Attorney General.

As a side note I recently watched that face off between Harris and Barr in the Senate hearings and you could tell who was the better mind in that encounter.

The Trump situation has made me wonder about a few aspects in how to approach future elections. This dictator power grab by the Republican party has made me feel that this could happen again if moderate, independent and Democrat voters let their guard down in the future. And for that reason I believe it's extremely important to look at the Obama Effect approach to building voter involvement as a means to avoid ever having another Trump come into power. I think by having Presidential Tickets that garner huge excitement among all the various groups mentioned might be the wave of the future and the now, in order to protect this country from autocrats.

We actually have an Autocrat in the White House that supports Russia more than he defends the American people.

Giantaxe

Well, there's always "Gordon Barlow". I wonder when he will return to tell us Biden is going to start WWIII?

andyrebell

Great speech tonight by Kamala Harris and Biden doesn't have a clue what day of the week it is. But I think they will win. Trump is on his way out.

tom169

Meh, I don't think so.

zzrmark

What exactly made you come to that conclusion about Biden's speech? Besides repeating the words 'great choice' close together in a few sentences I thought it was once again nice to hear a prospective president who can talk for ten minutes, hold my attention and all without sounding like a mentally challenged toddler.