2020 Election
#3286
Re: 2020 Election
When fellow Conservatives are raising money and putting up this kind of ad against a President in their own party, you know something has to change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TiyJ7JWRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TiyJ7JWRE
#3287
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Joined: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 12,865
Re: 2020 Election
I have historically felt that the VP nomination was a very unimportant decision, but this time, I see Biden as a potential figurehead and whoever is VP will have a stronger role. Biden could well kick the bucket or be declared incapacitated, or whatever, early into his presidency and thus the VP candidate has to be a good one! So this time, I'm paying more attention and I do hope it is Harris.
#3288
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Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,830
Re: 2020 Election
I have historically felt that the VP nomination was a very unimportant decision, but this time, I see Biden as a potential figurehead and whoever is VP will have a stronger role. Biden could well kick the bucket or be declared incapacitated, or whatever, early into his presidency and thus the VP candidate has to be a good one! So this time, I'm paying more attention and I do hope it is Harris.
#3290
Re: 2020 Election
Is it too late for Andrew Cuomo to get the gig. Not perfect, but measured and sensible, based on his daily pressers , which I caught most of wfh.
#3291
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Joined: Feb 2017
Location: Newnan, GA
Posts: 802
Re: 2020 Election
Just South of Atlanta, and it does feel like there is a bit of a swing, with a combination of recent events and a lot of Transplanted residents in the Burbs of Atlanta. Reckon it will be one cycle too early though, but maybe provide a bit of fun on Election night. The impact of the three surrounding States on the Covid numbers may come into play as well.
At the National level, I get a sense that a Cartoon Character could run against Trump right now and win. Most of the reasons people voted for him are now reasons to not vote for him because of the situation/context of this Election. But, there is that nagging doubt. I think Biden is unlikely to turn people in the Rust Belt to vote against their usual patterns as Hilary managed to do though.
At the National level, I get a sense that a Cartoon Character could run against Trump right now and win. Most of the reasons people voted for him are now reasons to not vote for him because of the situation/context of this Election. But, there is that nagging doubt. I think Biden is unlikely to turn people in the Rust Belt to vote against their usual patterns as Hilary managed to do though.
#3292
Re: 2020 Election
Just South of Atlanta, and it does feel like there is a bit of a swing, with a combination of recent events and a lot of Transplanted residents in the Burbs of Atlanta. Reckon it will be one cycle too early though, but maybe provide a bit of fun on Election night. The impact of the three surrounding States on the Covid numbers may come into play as well.
At the National level, I get a sense that a Cartoon Character could run against Trump right now and win. Most of the reasons people voted for him are now reasons to not vote for him because of the situation/context of this Election. But, there is that nagging doubt. I think Biden is unlikely to turn people in the Rust Belt to vote against their usual patterns as Hilary managed to do though.
At the National level, I get a sense that a Cartoon Character could run against Trump right now and win. Most of the reasons people voted for him are now reasons to not vote for him because of the situation/context of this Election. But, there is that nagging doubt. I think Biden is unlikely to turn people in the Rust Belt to vote against their usual patterns as Hilary managed to do though.
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/26/213035...lection-losing
Basically, back in 2016, a lot of people were willing to say 'why not give him a try?'. But now, he's had his try. He did manage to preside over a healthy economy for some time, and whether deserved or not, that kept him in favor. But now ... I can't see a lot of people overlooking his failures as a leader. The current leadership vacuum must surely be seen by all. I can't bear to watch Fox News much, but even they can't hide the bigger issues.
But - still 5 months to go ...
#3293
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
Re: 2020 Election
Trump's main hope is Biden, OK he is not Hillary and does not have her issues, if the Party can basically hide him as long as possible, he would be his own worst enemy if let out in public.
#3294
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,900
Re: 2020 Election
The fact that Biden is seemingly making his choice earlier than is customary indicates he feels the same way. Honestly, I am not sure whether I want Harris. She had a pretty unimpressive campaign, and has baggage from her time as DA in San Francisco and Attorney General for California. Isee her more as a likely US Attorney General than I do Vice President.
A quick search, Kerry picked Edwards on 6 July; Obama picked Biden on 23 August; Gore picked Lieberman on 7 August; Bush picked Cheney on 26 July; McCain picked Palin on 29 August; Romney picked Ryan on 12 August; Clinton picked Kaine on 22 July.
So anywhere from mid-July on, would be normal.
#3296
Re: 2020 Election
Never-Trumpers have not shifted and, it seems, nor have pro-Trumpers who remain as staunchly invested in him, if not more so, than when they put him there in 2016. I don't seem to meet any middle of the road wavering types but if I were one I would probably keep stum in most debates as I'd get my head bitten off whichever way I looked.
#3297
Re: 2020 Election
#3298
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Joined: Nov 2011
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Posts: 19,850
Re: 2020 Election
CNN opinion piece says these 3 women should be in running for VP. Kamala Harris, Val Demings, Susan Rice.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/opini...hen/index.html
At 77 years old, if former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, wins the 2020 presidential election, he would be the oldest person ever elected president, surpassing President Donald Trump who set that mark in 2016 at age 70.
FFS America and the Democrats is this all you can come up with even with a population of over 350 million.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/opini...hen/index.html
At 77 years old, if former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, wins the 2020 presidential election, he would be the oldest person ever elected president, surpassing President Donald Trump who set that mark in 2016 at age 70.
FFS America and the Democrats is this all you can come up with even with a population of over 350 million.
#3299
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Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 22,348
Re: 2020 Election
I'll be amazed if he's not somehow swapped out before the election. What could that sequence of events look like?