Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12843838)

Nah, it's all good, he was simply being sarcastic . Ignoring the fact he has no clue what sarcasm is or when it's a suitable time to use it.

Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12843701)

You've said this several times. Didn't Obama win re-election with a smaller share of the vote than from his first time around? Why does a sitting President have to grow his base; he simply has to win.

Update - Obama 2008: 52.9 %; Obama 2012: 51.1%

Originally Posted by pejp (Post 12843696)

This is the thing I find hardest to understand. I just cannot comprehend how anyone could listen to him speak, and think there is a dynamic sharp mind operating behind these words. I'll paraphrase a podcast I listen to, but when people speak, you're getting a window into their mind. From a general intelligence perspective, it's not possible that somebody can sound like a 12 year old, with an incredibly limited vocabulary, but actually be really smart. Smart people simply do not talk like that. Smart people are capable of understanding complex concepts, and expressing nuanced views. Trump clearly can't do that. He'll repeat the same thing in 3 different ways, each time just as simplistic and mindless. It's not possible that he's actually a genius behind closed doors, he is having to confront the reality that simply talking about himself incessantly will not be enough this time.

It's difficult to even debate his performance so far. He's 'graded on a curve' to such a ridiculous extent. We're not seeing a level of incompetence which is absurd for a President, we're seeing a level of incompetence that would be absurd for the average person, so any debate that starts with the premise that his suitability for the presidency is an open question, is just a non-starter. It's like someone asking to debate if the world is flat or not. He should't be in charge of a local walmart, never mind the Presidency. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that if I walked down the street right now, I'd expect the first person I saw to be more capable than he is. He is someone who simply doesn't have the mental capacity to understand the implications of his words and actions, because the only thing that motivates him is his own insecurity.

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12844029)

Is the assassination of the former vice president a cool topic on BE now?

Originally Posted by zzrmark (Post 12844051)

Any desperate diversion to draw our attention from the current administration clusterf**k.

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12844058)

Yeah. 50,000 People are dead and Trump has people drinking drain cleaner.

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12844058)

Yeah. 50,000 People are dead and Trump has people drinking drain cleaner. But let's use BE for assassination memes of the other guy ... that's not weird at all.

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12844029)

Is the assassination of the former vice president a cool topic on BE now?

Originally Posted by Red_Wine_Fairy (Post 12844098)

There is a huge difference in pointing out the dirty tricks starting to be used by republican spin doctors to try to besmirch the name of the former VP, and us actually doing the assassination, which nobody is.

Few here would wish to inflict Trump on the world for another four years. But only a fool would think that Trumps team wouldn't have new contacts with similar influencers and analysts like Breitbart, Cambridge Analytica for this campaign, in order to opiate the minds of those voters who might, this time, be leaning towards Biden. It's early days, but the campaign is there, albeit subtle for now.

Sun Tzu said it: Know your enemy. Biden's team should (and I'm sure they are) be ready to counter whatever is thrown at them. With the best will in the world, Biden and his team would be foolish to think that even if they can't find any dirt on him, the republican spin machine wouldn't try to make stuff up. I would be amazed to think that we've seen them play their best cards yet. Trump knows that it doesn't all have to stick, just some of it. Repeat a lie many times and some will start to think it's the truth, etc, etc