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Old Sep 22nd 2015 | 3:49 pm
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So I was right?
Highly unlikely.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2015 | 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Boiler
So I was right?
Well, the default for any shite storm that afflicts us: war or the economy, or anything else is that it's Bush's fault. Probably why the JEB! dog won't hunt either.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2015 | 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
Hope not. Maybe we learned lessons in Iraq and Vietnam. Of course, if the Norks hit us with their nukes, we should know what to do. I think their next gen missiles might be able to reach San Fran...it would be interesting to see what the libs would do if they took out the city.
They can already reach Alaska so they'll probably take out the right's darling Sarah Palin first.

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
Well, the default for any shite storm that afflicts us: war or the economy, or anything else is that it's Bush's fault. Probably why the JEB! dog won't hunt either.
Hard not to conclude that the Iraq invasion was a huge clusterfuck.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2015 | 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
Well, the default for any shite storm that afflicts us: war or the economy, or anything else is that it's Bush's fault. Probably why the JEB! dog won't hunt either.
Jeb is likely to be president. You read it here.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2015 | 4:20 pm
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Jeb is likely to be president. You read it here.
Either him or Rubio, probably the best people on that side. Saw Rubio on Bret Baier's program this evening. He's probably the most fluent and persuasive of them all on a whole range of topics and is really their best bet.

Interesting stuff on the other side: Biden insiders feel Clinton stalking - POLITICO Story suggests that Clinton's people have done their oppo research on Diamond Joe and are ready to unload on him if he dares to run.
 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 1:55 am
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Bush started the war in Iraq and the war was lost during his term. Using GOP logic, one must conclude that it had nothing to do with him.
 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
Either him or Rubio, probably the best people on that side. Saw Rubio on Bret Baier's program this evening. He's probably the most fluent and persuasive of them all on a whole range of topics and is really their best bet.

Interesting stuff on the other side: Biden insiders feel Clinton stalking - POLITICO Story suggests that Clinton's people have done their oppo research on Diamond Joe and are ready to unload on him if he dares to run.
Can not imagine Joe is not well armed by Obama, he hates Hillary.
 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
Bush started the war in Iraq and the war was lost during his term. Using GOP logic, one must conclude that it had nothing to do with him.
I thought it was universally agreed here that everything bad is Bush's fault - so you're flogging a dead horse.
 
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
I thought it was universally agreed here that everything bad is Bush's fault - so you're flogging a dead horse.
Instead of building yet another strawman, why don't you explain why the Iraq invasion and occupation wasn't Bush's fault?
 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 5:26 am
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The Republicans remind me of the Black Knight, refusing to acknowledge their own failures even when it is painfully obvious to everyone else.

 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
I thought it was universally agreed here that everything bad is Bush's fault - so you're flogging a dead horse.
I thought Bush was bad, and then came Obama.
 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 5:35 am
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I thought Bush was bad, and then came Obama.
I've seen some bad pornos in my time, but you need to find a new site, I think
 
Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Instead of building yet another strawman, why don't you explain why the Iraq invasion and occupation wasn't Bush's fault?
No straw man here. I'm fully and freely acknowledging that the invasion and occupation of Iraq and all the consequences flowing therefrom was/is Bush's Fault.

Not only that, but if someone is elected, let's say, on the promise of fixing Bush's Fault in Iraq and screws up the fix, it's still Bush's Fault, because without the invasion and occupation of Iraq in the first place, that someone wouldn't have needed to attempt to fix the unfixable.

So, everything bad remains Bush's Fault until the next Republican is elected. If that happens to be Rubio, then everything bad will be Rubio's Fault until the next Republican after him is elected. See how it works? Easy peasy.
 
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
No straw man here. I'm fully and freely acknowledging that the invasion and occupation of Iraq and all the consequences flowing therefrom was/is Bush's Fault.

Not only that, but if someone is elected, let's say, on the promise of fixing Bush's Fault in Iraq and screws up the fix, it's still Bush's Fault, because without the invasion and occupation of Iraq in the first place, that someone wouldn't have needed to attempt to fix the unfixable.

So, everything bad remains Bush's Fault until the next Republican is elected. If that happens to be Rubio, then everything bad will be Rubio's Fault until the next Republican after him is elected. See how it works? Easy peasy.
Just another (lame) strawman...

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Old Sep 23rd 2015 | 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Just another (lame) strawman...
It's impossible to please you guys. Let's all say it: "IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!" What more of a mea culpa do you want?

Yeah, I voted for him twice, so it's also MY FAULT!
 


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