D.C. KOOP

The quotes...the quotes!!

When you see that you've 'cocked a quote up' please edit and sort it out.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/take-...rectly-873146/

Thank you.

Yeah I know.. My golf partner bailed on me today. Got nowt else to do for the moment

Why is the Pitchman In Chief pitching Russia all the time? He's absolutely selling it. Trump is happy again, he got his fix. It's like he's trying to restart the election though. He's stuck. He's also intellectually non-curious.

Question: Trump seems to have two preferred jobs (1) selling 'it' via rallies and (2) bossing his minions around. I'm curious what predictions the other posters make about who will actually be running the country?

I don't know, but the next four years will be very interesting. The country will survive 'The Donald', but I anticipate a collective buyers remorse.

I perhaps didn't word that as well as I could of, I was pointing out that someone who had posted that statement before was certainly saying something that I believed entirely correct based on my own experiences.

I do find it curious that comments you feel are patronizing and I assume therefore offensive that would be perfectly normal in conversation in the country of the people concerned. When I went to Mexico and was discussing with our local Mexican partner how the workers were there those were the first two things he said, that the workers were hard-working and loyal, and my experience with the 50 workers we had ended up showing overall that was quite correct. Yet a non-Mexican can be offended by such words that are not at all negative I admit ( perhaps my age) is something I guess I need to pay attention to but this PC world is a mine-field to deal with. Maybe if one could discuss reality without people instantly taking offense when no offense intended discussions in this PC world would be easier.

I guess I should have told our Mexican partner that he was being ridiculously patronizing. Or that every time I have heard an American or Mexican say that Mexicans were hard workers that I should tell them to stop being patronizing ? No offense, I just don't get it. I try to be more PC just to be polite as much as I can but I guess some PC I just don't get.

Good question- my prediction is he will end up leaving the day to day to others, burst in and out creating turmoil with comments or a particular policy, and be frustrated by Congress on much of what he wants to do.

It is quite worrisome his apparent lack of intellectual curiosity as even policies he has I might agree with, are so complex in practice to implement I wonder how much he has thought through the mechanics of implementation.

Wait a second here. Koop mentioned an exchange that one might have between friends, which I agree may not be appropriate amongst people who don't know each other.

I wrote simply my opinion that Mexicans are hard workers and loyal (rather just agreeing that what Kopp said was also my impression). I cant imagine any Mexican I know taking offense by that, in fact I know Mexicans and Latin Americans who when I ask them their impression of working in America often one of their first comments that Americans workers often are lazy.

I am curious why non-Mexicans take offense at comments that Mexicans might not ? Or would a Mexican-American take offense at that comment because of how things are viewed in America whereas a Mexican would not ?

I'd like to believe the country and the world will survive, but they may not. Look how easily the world was pitched into the First World War for instance (nationalism, mobilisation timetables ..) I'd say Trump is a lot less competent than Kaiser Wilhelm.

Trump apparently doesn't attend briefings etc. Are there mechanisms in place to preclude incompetent or dangerous actions by a president? I suspect not. Up till now, it's been assumed that presidents are competent and well intentioned.

You seem to miss the point people are making. Your Mexican partner saying that isn't being patronising. De Koops 'verbal exchanges' aren't patronising. You and De Koop, as a non Mexicans stating 'Mexicans can be very good and loyal workers.' is being very patronising but if you can't see the difference then nothing anyone says will make any difference.

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You are probably correct, how making a positive observation based on experience is somehow patronizing in a something of a pejorative way, logically I will not understand- but for this forum I guess it is and perhaps since you mention it outside of this forum others ( though I doubt Mexicans) would also consider it patronizing.

It is a bit challenging to understand how a comment if I made about Mexicans to a Mexican would be perfectly accepted by the Mexican, but then a non-Mexican considers the comment patronizing.

There is no way to preclude anything a president does. There is impeachment once he's done something and, AFAIK, that's all we've got.

I completely agree with the rest of your post. There is so much to be afraid of, it's difficult to concentrate on any one thing for any amount of time. Will he plunge us into a financial depression by letting Wall Street run wild? Will he get our kids killed in foolish wars? Will he get us all killed with a nuclear war? The padding of his own pockets, and fleecing of the taxpayers for his own personal gain, seems almost quaint compared to what could happen.

To further complicate things, while the US media and voters will probably bounce from perceived controversy to controversy, other parts of the world may not.

In the phone call with the Philippines, Trump, according to Duterte, gave tacit approval for the approach that Duterte is tackling drug use in his country. This wasn't denied by the Trump transition team, which will possibly allow Duterte to claim that his highly-decried policies have the backing of the United States.

Trump, as a pitchman, changes into whatever the person before him wants him to be. Then later, if it makes him look bad, he just lies and/or pretends it never even happened. However, as in the case of the KKK and Duterte, the party who received his approval has been given license and remains emboldened.

I did notice (during his self-pleasuring bragging speech) the other day, that when he condemned racism and bigotry, the crowd didn't cheer. I reckon he won't be doing too much more of that 'inclusion' nonsense in the future.

There's also the 25th Amendment, but you need a majority of the cabinet to sign on for that, and given his picks so far I don't think you would get that.