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Enough of the semantic claptrap. You've completely misconstrued what I said.
Ebonhawke originally said that with a Clinton presidency with a GOP House and Senate would be worse than what we have now. I was pushing backing against that idea.
I don't know how you got the idea that Trump wouldn't be better for some people than Clinton in some instances. Yes, corporations and those at the top will still get all the goodies they want (probably even more so than with Clinton), and the rest of us will get screwed.
The problem is, on climate change alone, which could fck up the planet for everyone makes this small fry.
Ebonhawke originally said that with a Clinton presidency with a GOP House and Senate would be worse than what we have now. I was pushing backing against that idea.
I don't know how you got the idea that Trump wouldn't be better for some people than Clinton in some instances. Yes, corporations and those at the top will still get all the goodies they want (probably even more so than with Clinton), and the rest of us will get screwed.
The problem is, on climate change alone, which could fck up the planet for everyone makes this small fry.
Oh and the fact that he's sending Pence to the security briefings but won't be bothered to go himself? This is obviously way above his pay grade in that he's entirely too pig stupid to absorb profuse and complex information. But seriously? He won't even go and try to learn? That actually pisses me off even though it might be a good thing. Pence is two notches less insane than Trump but, truthfully, Trump is probably too crazy to actually let Pence run that shit.
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The fact that Trump is disputing the election results really tells me more than anything else possibly could.
Oh and the fact that he's sending Pence to the security briefings but won't be bothered to go himself? This is obviously way above his pay grade in that he's entirely too pig stupid to absorb profuse and complex information. But seriously? He won't even go and try to learn? That actually pisses me off even though it might be a good thing. Pence is two notches less insane than Trump but, truthfully, Trump is probably too crazy to actually let Pence run that shit.
Oh and the fact that he's sending Pence to the security briefings but won't be bothered to go himself? This is obviously way above his pay grade in that he's entirely too pig stupid to absorb profuse and complex information. But seriously? He won't even go and try to learn? That actually pisses me off even though it might be a good thing. Pence is two notches less insane than Trump but, truthfully, Trump is probably too crazy to actually let Pence run that shit.
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The fact that Trump is disputing the election results really tells me more than anything else possibly could.
Oh and the fact that he's sending Pence to the security briefings but won't be bothered to go himself? This is obviously way above his pay grade in that he's entirely too pig stupid to absorb profuse and complex information. But seriously? He won't even go and try to learn? That actually pisses me off even though it might be a good thing. Pence is two notches less insane than Trump but, truthfully, Trump is probably too crazy to actually let Pence run that shit.
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Because there's nothing suspicious about an unelected family member to be acting Commander in Chief. Not weird at all.
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Enough of the semantic claptrap. You've completely misconstrued what I said.
Ebonhawke originally said that with a Clinton presidency with a GOP House and Senate would be worse than what we have now. I was pushing backing against that idea.
I don't know how you got the idea that Trump wouldn't be better for some people than Clinton in some instances. Yes, corporations and those at the top will still get all the goodies they want (probably even more so than with Clinton), and the rest of us will get screwed.
The problem is, on climate change alone, which could fck up the planet for everyone makes this small fry.
Ebonhawke originally said that with a Clinton presidency with a GOP House and Senate would be worse than what we have now. I was pushing backing against that idea.
I don't know how you got the idea that Trump wouldn't be better for some people than Clinton in some instances. Yes, corporations and those at the top will still get all the goodies they want (probably even more so than with Clinton), and the rest of us will get screwed.
The problem is, on climate change alone, which could fck up the planet for everyone makes this small fry.
Actually I think I made the comment some time back that whoever won, I would prefer the other side to have Congress on the basis a do nothing Congress was better than a do all Congress.
There are 300 odd million people, Trump must be better for some that others, I have serious doubts that all that money paid to the Clinton Foundation was all altruistic. Just the way things work.
Most people get screwed, quite how much with the choices is complex.
Climate Change, well that covers a lot of possibilities, but lets assume you take a view it is happening a middle course on the various assumptions, then I would be prepared to wager a fairly significant sum that any messing around that Clinton may have done would be minimal and have no significant effect.
As I frequently say the US, the world do not work like that, people are more focussed on the now, just look around. Everytime the Guardian run a Climate Change story I seem to get an email from Guardian Travel about holidaying in Belize or wherever. Amusing. As was watching the Politicians zooming around in their jets.
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What I don't think Trump understands is that the Presidency of the United States is deemed the hardest job in the world, not because of the long hours required, or the expectation of a broad range of knowledge, but because the blame for every single decision made by his administration is laid at his feet.
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Climate Change, well that covers a lot of possibilities, but lets assume you take a view it is happening a middle course on the various assumptions, then I would be prepared to wager a fairly significant sum that any messing around that Clinton may have done would be minimal and have no significant effect.
Of course he'll tweet about it "Decided to save the liberals living on the coasts money. Now they'll no longer have to take swimming lessons #MAGA"
Just keep Trump and Duterte away from each other.
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Climate Change, well that covers a lot of possibilities, but lets assume you take a view it is happening a middle course on the various assumptions, then I would be prepared to wager a fairly significant sum that any messing around that Clinton may have done would be minimal and have no significant effect.
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Some well reasoned arguments from Silver on the pros and cons of auditing election results. A stark contrast to the Daily Fail's article:
Why I Support An Election Audit, Even Though It’s Unlikely To Change The Outcome | FiveThirtyEight
Why I Support An Election Audit, Even Though It’s Unlikely To Change The Outcome | FiveThirtyEight
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Let us say Clinton vs Donald delayed whatever you think is going to happen a week?
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Some well reasoned arguments from Silver on the pros and cons of auditing election results. A stark contrast to the Daily Fail's article:
Why I Support An Election Audit, Even Though It’s Unlikely To Change The Outcome | FiveThirtyEight
Why I Support An Election Audit, Even Though It’s Unlikely To Change The Outcome | FiveThirtyEight
Obviously begs the question why people would want to pay for an audit, obviously more interested in changing the result.
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Money doesn't grow on trees and US is 18+ trillion in debt. Maybe if the US would start acting like the broke nation it is the sooner it can get out of debt
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The thing is, it's not a small degree of difference. If Trump tears up the Paris Agreement, then there is a good chance that India, China, Russia and others will follow suit. Another four (probably more) years of emissions at the current levels will mean literally degrees of difference in increased temperatures.
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