2016 Election
Nov 19th 2016, 3:57 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Good luck on getting a Republican congress to do that. Even their infrastructure plans are tax credits for private investment.
Nov 19th 2016, 7:18 am
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Nov 19th 2016, 7:34 am
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Re: 2016 Election
NSFW but I found it funny all the same:
https://youtu.be/Kbryz0mxuMY
https://youtu.be/Kbryz0mxuMY
Nov 19th 2016, 7:36 am
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Re: 2016 Election
No, the new administration is going to open a buggy-whip factory in each rust belt state. And probably advise all poor white people to take in each other's laundry .... Trump's a successful businessman, he knows how to get this stuff done.
Nov 19th 2016, 9:44 am
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Nov 19th 2016, 9:46 am
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Re: 2016 Election
A massive influx of financial aid to these areas by the Federal government coupled with a massive program of job retraining no matter how long it takes
America has been pouring billions of dollars into other countries across the globe for 70 years. Why not start investing some our tax dollars at home?
America has been pouring billions of dollars into other countries across the globe for 70 years. Why not start investing some our tax dollars at home?
Nov 19th 2016, 9:49 am
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Re: 2016 Election
The move south was due to the advent of air conditioning, perhaps when that becomes too expensive for regular use there will be a move north?
Or when Florida is under water?
Our problem at the moment is lack of water, and history does not go back that far but there have been times of major drought and the increasing population will place a massive strain next time.
It is never a one way for ever deal, different circumstances and there will be changes.
Or when Florida is under water?
Our problem at the moment is lack of water, and history does not go back that far but there have been times of major drought and the increasing population will place a massive strain next time.
It is never a one way for ever deal, different circumstances and there will be changes.
Nov 19th 2016, 10:20 am
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Nov 19th 2016, 10:24 am
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Re: 2016 Election
So you think the mass movement would have happened without ir?
Nov 19th 2016, 10:48 am
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Re: 2016 Election
A very good article debunking the value of the electoral college.
Arguments in Favor of the Electoral College—And Why They're Wrong
Arguments in Favor of the Electoral College—And Why They're Wrong
Nov 19th 2016, 11:01 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I don't remember a mass movement.
At different times historically, there have been different reasons.
The South has been populated by carpetbaggers* since Reconstruction. So, back then it was because of certain opportunities in the Deep South resulting from the end of the Civil War.
Speaking for Texas specifically, the Texas Oil Boom started well before air conditioning and brought hoards of blue collar families. Texas used the money from the Boom to diversify and now people move here for technology jobs as well as petroleum jobs. Texas has been lucky enough to have some natural resources that have boosted the economy. These things change over time. My mother's side of the family had some old timers that were sharecroppers and cotton pickers --- all of European descent.
Incidentally, air conditioning wasn't standard even when we moved here in the 70s. No working class/working poor families had central heat/AC and many still don't today. We were lucky to have a window unit in the living room. In the heat of summer we could either sleep in our own rooms with a fan or all sleep in the living room with the air conditioner.
*tongue in cheek
At different times historically, there have been different reasons.
The South has been populated by carpetbaggers* since Reconstruction. So, back then it was because of certain opportunities in the Deep South resulting from the end of the Civil War.
Speaking for Texas specifically, the Texas Oil Boom started well before air conditioning and brought hoards of blue collar families. Texas used the money from the Boom to diversify and now people move here for technology jobs as well as petroleum jobs. Texas has been lucky enough to have some natural resources that have boosted the economy. These things change over time. My mother's side of the family had some old timers that were sharecroppers and cotton pickers --- all of European descent.
Incidentally, air conditioning wasn't standard even when we moved here in the 70s. No working class/working poor families had central heat/AC and many still don't today. We were lucky to have a window unit in the living room. In the heat of summer we could either sleep in our own rooms with a fan or all sleep in the living room with the air conditioner.
*tongue in cheek
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Nov 19th 2016, 11:19 am
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Re: 2016 Election
The move south was due to the advent of air conditioning, perhaps when that becomes too expensive for regular use there will be a move north?
Or when Florida is under water?
Our problem at the moment is lack of water, and history does not go back that far but there have been times of major drought and the increasing population will place a massive strain next time.
It is never a one way for ever deal, different circumstances and there will be changes.
Or when Florida is under water?
Our problem at the moment is lack of water, and history does not go back that far but there have been times of major drought and the increasing population will place a massive strain next time.
It is never a one way for ever deal, different circumstances and there will be changes.
AC..... check
Water/rum..... check
Coconuts from the backyard... check
I don't care what Trump does to you people for the next four years.
Nov 19th 2016, 11:28 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I've been pondering about how much Trump must be in complete withdrawal now that he isn't holding rallies.
Nov 19th 2016, 11:49 am
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Nov 19th 2016, 11:55 am
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