2016 Election
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So Trump has filed a lawsuit in Nevada because a polling place (Hispanic neighborhood..as if I needed to point that out) because the polling place had the audacity to follow Nevada law and remained open to allow those in line at regular closing time to exercise their legal right to vote. The man and his minions have zero shame.
I just reminded myself that I still haven't developed that picture of me at mile 0 of the Alaska Highway

Yes, I think we've already had the discussion about the astronomical price of a 12 pack of Molson Canadian

I do like it up there though, but I have no path to a visa that I know of, even if we did want to move.
So Trump has filed a lawsuit in Nevada because a polling place (Hispanic neighborhood..as if I needed to point that out) because the polling place had the audacity to follow Nevada law and remained open to allow those in line at regular closing time to exercise their legal right to vote. The man and his minions have zero shame.
Yeah, sounds about right.
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But he isn't going to change the status quo, you need support from congress to do that and he has few allies among them. Ironically, the status quo right now is a Republican congress, so if they aren't voting Democrat in those elections then they are actually happy with the status quo. Or maybe they have no idea what they are voting for when it comes to policy and ability to get put it into action, and are merely judging based on a few things they have heard and the personality they like best.
I think either of these candidates will have a problem governing with one party controlling Congress and the other the presidency.
I do think this will change in next election as I do not think there will be a Republican president again, and the demographics will eventually lead to point to where the democrats will control Congress.
If I have to take it somewhere, I might as well go and vote on the actual day. And as others have commented, I enjoyed the atmosphere at the polling place today. Even though it was the busiest I've ever seen it, I still walked right in, filled in my form immediately, and then waited just a few minutes to put it in the machine.
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I think many of his supporters consider the Republican party being as much the status quo as Clinton and the democrats.
I think either of these candidates will have a problem governing with one party controlling Congress and the other the presidency.
I do think this will change in next election as I do not think there will be a Republican president again, and the demographics will eventually lead to point to where the democrats will control Congress.
I think either of these candidates will have a problem governing with one party controlling Congress and the other the presidency.
I do think this will change in next election as I do not think there will be a Republican president again, and the demographics will eventually lead to point to where the democrats will control Congress.
I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more.
An example of him withdrawing the US from NAFTA:
"What's also clear is the uncertainty would wreak havoc on American businesses, and the withdrawal would likely lead to higher prices for American consumers, as Trump himself acknowledged in a speech in New Hampshire last week. And experts don't expect eliminating NAFTA bring back jobs."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/06/news...y/trump-nafta/
And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
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There wasn't much of an atmosphere at mine, but it's at the volunteer fire department and they have a cool 1930s (I think) fire engine on display in the foyer there, so I get to see that 
I guess for me it's force of habit. Since I've been 18 I've always voted in person, so it's just what I do.

I guess for me it's force of habit. Since I've been 18 I've always voted in person, so it's just what I do.
There is a distinct possibility that the Republicans could end up with the presidency and both houses; there is zero possibility that the Democrats will.
I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more. And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more. And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
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There is a distinct possibility that the Republicans could end up with the presidency and both houses; there is zero possibility that the Democrats will. Given the gerrymandering that's gone on, I can't see the house changing hands for quite a while.
I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more.
An example of him withdrawing the US from NAFTA:
"What's also clear is the uncertainty would wreak havoc on American businesses, and the withdrawal would likely lead to higher prices for American consumers, as Trump himself acknowledged in a speech in New Hampshire last week. And experts don't expect eliminating NAFTA bring back jobs."
Yes, 'President Trump' really could kill NAFTA - but it wouldn't be pretty - Jul. 6, 2016
And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more.
An example of him withdrawing the US from NAFTA:
"What's also clear is the uncertainty would wreak havoc on American businesses, and the withdrawal would likely lead to higher prices for American consumers, as Trump himself acknowledged in a speech in New Hampshire last week. And experts don't expect eliminating NAFTA bring back jobs."
Yes, 'President Trump' really could kill NAFTA - but it wouldn't be pretty - Jul. 6, 2016
And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
As far as NAFTA all these establishment experts are the same ones who often supported NAFTA and other trade policies as being beneficial and we have seen the results. Would being tough with the Chinese and re-negotiating NAFTA be a negative ? I am not sure one could objectively with certainty say yes or no. We do know without change what the trends have been.
Now his character and personality is another whole issue !



