Wikiposts

2016 Election

Thread Tools
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:37 am
  #11731  
dakota44's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27,078
From: Nova Scotia Canada
dakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Did I mix up my branches?

Either way, I'd wager over half the GOP think he's a twat anyway, so even then the chances of him actually being able to do anything he says he will is slim to none..
You did. Also he would use executive orders like a madman.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:40 am
  #11732  
zargof's Avatar
I love my brick!
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 9,304
From: Peachy
zargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond reputezargof has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by dakota44
You did. Also he would use executive orders like a madman.
Also, there is always a chance he would instigate his own Kristallnacht.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:43 am
  #11733  
SultanOfSwing's Avatar
I have a comma problem
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 49,598
From: Fox Lake, IL (from Carrickfergus NI)
SultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by dakota44
You did. Also he would use executive orders like a madman.
And it's not like we could ever invoke the 25th Amendment if we had precedent to either because then we'd be left with "Funerals for Miscarriages" Pence.

So, Canada, you say?
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:48 am
  #11734  
dakota44's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27,078
From: Nova Scotia Canada
dakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
And it's not like we could ever invoke the 25th Amendment if we had precedent to either because then we'd be left with "Funerals for Miscarriages" Pence.

So, Canada, you say?

Quite nice here in British Columbia....except for the almost non stop winter rain.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:50 am
  #11735  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 0
scrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond reputescrubbedexpat091 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
And it's not like we could ever invoke the 25th Amendment if we had precedent to either because then we'd be left with "Funerals for Miscarriages" Pence.

So, Canada, you say?
Canada isn't bad, just expect to pay more for nearly everything.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:51 am
  #11736  
dakota44's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27,078
From: Nova Scotia Canada
dakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

So Trump has filed a lawsuit in Nevada because a polling place (Hispanic neighborhood..as if I needed to point that out) because the polling place had the audacity to follow Nevada law and remained open to allow those in line at regular closing time to exercise their legal right to vote. The man and his minions have zero shame.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:54 am
  #11737  
SultanOfSwing's Avatar
I have a comma problem
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 49,598
From: Fox Lake, IL (from Carrickfergus NI)
SultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by dakota44
Quite nice here in British Columbia....except for the almost non stop winter rain.
I've been to Fort St. John and Dawson Creek once before, it was nice up there. It was funny traveling all that way and seeing Wisconsin Central freight cars lined up in a railway yard as well.

I just reminded myself that I still haven't developed that picture of me at mile 0 of the Alaska Highway

Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Canada isn't bad, just expect to pay more for nearly everything.
Yes, I think we've already had the discussion about the astronomical price of a 12 pack of Molson Canadian

I do like it up there though, but I have no path to a visa that I know of, even if we did want to move.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 6:56 am
  #11738  
SultanOfSwing's Avatar
I have a comma problem
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 49,598
From: Fox Lake, IL (from Carrickfergus NI)
SultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by dakota44
So Trump has filed a lawsuit in Nevada because a polling place (Hispanic neighborhood..as if I needed to point that out) because the polling place had the audacity to follow Nevada law and remained open to allow those in line at regular closing time to exercise their legal right to vote. The man and his minions have zero shame.
Polling place stays open, as is the law, to grant citizens their constitutional right to exercise their votes and Trump sues them.

Yeah, sounds about right.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:00 am
  #11739  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 11,628
morpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Anian
But he isn't going to change the status quo, you need support from congress to do that and he has few allies among them. Ironically, the status quo right now is a Republican congress, so if they aren't voting Democrat in those elections then they are actually happy with the status quo. Or maybe they have no idea what they are voting for when it comes to policy and ability to get put it into action, and are merely judging based on a few things they have heard and the personality they like best.
I think many of his supporters consider the Republican party being as much the status quo as Clinton and the democrats.

I think either of these candidates will have a problem governing with one party controlling Congress and the other the presidency.

I do think this will change in next election as I do not think there will be a Republican president again, and the demographics will eventually lead to point to where the democrats will control Congress.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:09 am
  #11740  
dakota44's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27,078
From: Nova Scotia Canada
dakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Canada isn't bad, just expect to pay more for nearly everything.
In 10 minutes I can be at the border crossing to Washington...so cross border shopping is a breeze. At the moment however..the Canadian dollar is to low to make it worthwhile.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:19 am
  #11741  
Nutmegger's Avatar
Deep in the woods of CT
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,511
Nutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond reputeNutmegger has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by lansbury
Take it to a drop off ballot box. You can go online in Oregon and check that your ballot has been returned, they mark it as received when the signature check is done, mine was received October 26th.

If I have to take it somewhere, I might as well go and vote on the actual day. And as others have commented, I enjoyed the atmosphere at the polling place today. Even though it was the busiest I've ever seen it, I still walked right in, filled in my form immediately, and then waited just a few minutes to put it in the machine.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:20 am
  #11742  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 13,212
From: San Francisco
Giantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond reputeGiantaxe has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by morpeth
I think many of his supporters consider the Republican party being as much the status quo as Clinton and the democrats.

I think either of these candidates will have a problem governing with one party controlling Congress and the other the presidency.

I do think this will change in next election as I do not think there will be a Republican president again, and the demographics will eventually lead to point to where the democrats will control Congress.
There is a distinct possibility that the Republicans could end up with the presidency and both houses; there is zero possibility that the Democrats will. Given the gerrymandering that's gone on, I can't see the house changing hands for quite a while.

I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more.

An example of him withdrawing the US from NAFTA:

"What's also clear is the uncertainty would wreak havoc on American businesses, and the withdrawal would likely lead to higher prices for American consumers, as Trump himself acknowledged in a speech in New Hampshire last week. And experts don't expect eliminating NAFTA bring back jobs."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/06/news...y/trump-nafta/

And that's before we start discussing his character etc.

Last edited by Giantaxe; Nov 8th 2016 at 7:25 am.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:21 am
  #11743  
SultanOfSwing's Avatar
I have a comma problem
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 49,598
From: Fox Lake, IL (from Carrickfergus NI)
SultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond reputeSultanOfSwing has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

There wasn't much of an atmosphere at mine, but it's at the volunteer fire department and they have a cool 1930s (I think) fire engine on display in the foyer there, so I get to see that

I guess for me it's force of habit. Since I've been 18 I've always voted in person, so it's just what I do.
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:22 am
  #11744  
dakota44's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 27,078
From: Nova Scotia Canada
dakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond reputedakota44 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Giantaxe
There is a distinct possibility that the Republicans could end up with the presidency and both houses; there is zero possibility that the Democrats will.

I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more. And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
He might sell Alaska back to the Russians. Hmmm...
 
Old Nov 8th 2016 | 7:30 am
  #11745  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 11,628
morpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Giantaxe
There is a distinct possibility that the Republicans could end up with the presidency and both houses; there is zero possibility that the Democrats will. Given the gerrymandering that's gone on, I can't see the house changing hands for quite a while.

I do understand why people want to vote for someone who is not a politician. But Trump? His tax plans vastly favour the rich and his trade policies almost certainly will impact poorer people more.

An example of him withdrawing the US from NAFTA:

"What's also clear is the uncertainty would wreak havoc on American businesses, and the withdrawal would likely lead to higher prices for American consumers, as Trump himself acknowledged in a speech in New Hampshire last week. And experts don't expect eliminating NAFTA bring back jobs."

Yes, 'President Trump' really could kill NAFTA - but it wouldn't be pretty - Jul. 6, 2016

And that's before we start discussing his character etc.
I will be astonished if Clinton doesn't win.

As far as NAFTA all these establishment experts are the same ones who often supported NAFTA and other trade policies as being beneficial and we have seen the results. Would being tough with the Chinese and re-negotiating NAFTA be a negative ? I am not sure one could objectively with certainty say yes or no. We do know without change what the trends have been.

Now his character and personality is another whole issue !
 


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.