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Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
More word salad.

I agree with what I think you are trying to say though. It is a shame that the Republican party put forward a pussy-grabbing, real estate swindler. It would have been nice to have had a real choice in this election.
Still can not quite believe that these 2 are the choices.

What has it come to.

And what does Trump have against cats?
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 3:27 am
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Still can not quite believe that these 2 are the choices.

What has it come to.

And what does Trump have against cats?
Anybody smaller and weaker than him is going to suffer at his hands. His little tiny hands.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 3:28 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Anybody smaller and weaker than him is going to suffer at his hands. His little tiny hands.
So just small cats, I see.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 5:19 am
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Wikileaks is not doing themselves any favors, I see many people questioning the accuracy of what they release. Selective editing, out of context and with misleading commentary added.

Today's wikileaks is not the same organization everyone fell in love with a few years ago.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 5:46 am
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This is the first election I remember (since '88) that we have skipped the anti-Christ warnings.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Wikileaks is not doing themselves any favors, I see many people questioning the accuracy of what they release. Selective editing, out of context and with misleading commentary added.

Today's wikileaks is not the same organization everyone fell in love with a few years ago.
Assange is on a vendetta trip at this point..
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by dakota44
Assange is on a vendetta trip at this point..
You mean Putin?
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
You mean Putin?
Yes..we cannot forget the sponsor.

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Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Wikileaks is not doing themselves any favors, I see many people questioning the accuracy of what they release. Selective editing, out of context and with misleading commentary added.

Today's wikileaks is not the same organization everyone fell in love with a few years ago.
At this point, Assange is desperate to get released from his bedsit. It's hard to be a warrior for the truth when you are suffering from a vitamin D deficiency.

It's a tortuous path but the motivations are clear. Obama is the main enemy of Assange and Snowden. Both of these guys are stuck in purgatory until the US changes their policy on whistle blowing. Clinton is seen as a continuation of the Obama administration. The reason they've crawled in bed with Putin is because he's one of the last few that will give then any cover and the only one with any juice.

Marco Rubio is correct, Putin has already hacked the Republicans as well. But Putin sees Trump as more malleable and susceptible to blackmail. So, rig the election to defeat Clinton because she's less likely to play ball. Then once the election goes to Trump, control US policy through blackmail and mind-control flattery.

Trump is right about one thing. The election is rigged. It's rigged in Trump's favor by Putin. Release all the bad stuff (most of which has been tampered with) about Hillary and withhold the Republican hacks until after the election.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 8:34 am
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I do wonder (other than monetary debt) what Putin may hold over Trump. There can't be much doubt that the RNC and Trump organization have been hacked as well.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
I do wonder (other than monetary debt) what Putin may hold over Trump. There can't be much doubt that the RNC and Trump organization have been hacked as well.
Trump has repeatedly stated that we don't know for sure if the Russians did the hacking. After he was read-in on the classified intelligence briefings that proved it was the Russians --- he continued to defend Putin. That's just ficking weird.

I worry more about what other Republicans have been hacked and may already be vulnerable to being blackmailed. If Trump were to win the election, it would be high level Republicans that would actually be making all of the decisions, obviously, because Trump is pig-stupid and uninformed.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
You mean Putin?
Just watched Fareed Zakaria (DVR) and he did a piece on this very topic. According to a journalist on the panel, when Hillary was Secretary of State, she interjected herself into a Russian election and claimed it was rigged. Putin was not pleased.

That was news to me.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Just watched Fareed Zakaria (DVR) and he did a piece on this very topic. According to a journalist on the panel, when Hillary was Secretary of State, she interjected herself into a Russian election and claimed it was rigged. Putin was not pleased.

That was news to me.
Hillary should know.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2016 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Just watched Fareed Zakaria (DVR) and he did a piece on this very topic. According to a journalist on the panel, when Hillary was Secretary of State, she interjected herself into a Russian election and claimed it was rigged. Putin was not pleased.

That was news to me.
The OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe) monitored the 2012 election in Russia and concluded that the outcome was rigged:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-putin-favour

The OSCE is based in Vienna (the one in Austria, not Virginia) and includes 57 nations as members, including Russia. It would be disingenuous to claim that Clinton was the only person questioning the election or that the only doubts came from the United States.
 
Old Oct 24th 2016 | 2:22 am
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
The OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe) monitored the 2012 election in Russia and concluded that the outcome was rigged:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-putin-favour

The OSCE is based in Vienna (the one in Austria, not Virginia) and includes 57 nations as members, including Russia. It would be disingenuous to claim that Clinton was the only person questioning the election or that the only doubts came from the United States.
I remember the rigged Russian elections as well as Putin jailing and/or killing political opponents and journalists. I just hadn't thought about that being the particular offense that made him an anti-Clinton operative.
 


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