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Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:22 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler
There is NO shortage of coverage about Trump, and it certainly should be covered.

But seemingly a blinding silence in the MSM about Clinton?

Even if was say 75% Trump and 25% Clinton I could sort of understand, CNN hardly seems to mention here and her misdeeds.
What misdeeds are those? Could you enumerate them for us, please? I think we should be told...
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler
CNN hardly seems to mention here and her misdeeds.
Weird. You've posted about her several hundred times, yet you haven't come up with anything beyond vague accusations and third-rate GIF files.
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:25 am
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
What misdeeds are those? Could you enumerate them for us, please? I think we should be told...
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by Abu Nazir
so wikileaks did another dump

5 takeaways from WikiLeaks emails | TheHill
Did you miss this? Was just posted, for a start.
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by Abu Nazir
well, the site i quoted is pretty balanced unlike rag pieces such as the ny times that i saw quoted a few pages back. so yeah, pretty lame i guess if you're comfortable knowing the extent to which the main stream press are colluding with the clinton campaign to get her elected, in addition to yet more evidence she's a massive hypocrite, a perpetual liar etc. in other emails released, clinton's team mocks catholics, rednecks, "needy latinos", sanders voters. all fine i guess if you're determined not to want to know or even care how smug and entitled clinton and the dems actually are. kind of makes a mockery of the anti trump hysteria, though, if you can't stop whinging about him but don't want to hear it when it comes to pretty damaging crap about her
sorry, you lost me when you said the NY Times is a rag - any idea of the history of that paper? I guess I should be reading BrightFart News if you're regurgitating the crap about media collusion and hating Catholics and Sanders supporters

and.... nah, can't be arsed I've had way too many arguments like this

Roll on Nov 8 and Trump and the GOP getting their arses kicked BIGLY
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler
There is NO shortage of coverage about Trump, and it certainly should be covered.

But seemingly a blinding silence in the MSM about Clinton?

Even if was say 75% Trump and 25% Clinton I could sort of understand, CNN hardly seems to mention here and her misdeeds.
Who do you define as "MSM"?

FOX News is one of the top rated cable networks.

FOX reports about Clinton's misdeeds pretty much 24/7. How do I know? Because I watch them do it.
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Did you miss this? Was just posted, for a start.
I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood my question.

The link you posted (which I had already commented on above) lists a few instances where politicians appear to be engaging in politics. How, exactly, is office scuttlebutt a "misdeed"? In what way are politicians supposed to manage their communications on issues and positions if their staff don't discuss among themselves what those positions and communications should be? If this is the best that the promised Wikileaks "scandal" has to offer, it is weak stuff indeed.

By contrast, Mr Trump's coverage seems mostly to be genuinely newsworthy - unfortunately for the GOP campaign, mainly for all the wrong reasons. His misogyny looks increasingly as though it consists of deeds rather than words: the women who have come forward over the last few days have seen to that. I don't know whether they were personally motivated to tell their stories, or whether they were encouraged by Trump's political opponents, but if Trump hadn't been so mealy-mouthed in his pseudo-apology for the "pussygate" thing, of if his campaign surrogates hadn't been quite so forcefully trying to dismiss it as "mere locker-room banter," they wouldn't have felt inclined to call him out for actual physical behaviour.

If you were a news editor - even of a Trump-leaning publication - which story is the meatier source of news, therefore readers, therefore advertisers, therefore revenue? 75/25 seems a generous split of coverage to me...
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:44 am
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I heard Fox got in trouble for inventing a little news, but I don't get it anyway because I just get basic cable. All the networks I get are reporting that he's a bigger creep than previously reported, and the employees, beauty pagent contestants, and even a fellow passenger on a flight are coming forward and saying how they were kissed and groped against their will, and a few other outrages. Trudeau wouldn't comment during his press q&a with the French PM other than to say his position on violence against women is well known, but he still won't refer to Trump by name and it's obvious he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 2:54 am
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Old Oct 13th 2016 | 3:06 am
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Why did non of these women come forward before? Why now, all of a sudden they all feel compelled to acuse the Trump at this time, and these are accusations remember, nothing is proven yet, but hey who gives a sh@t as long as the right person get into the right house ehh !!
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Why did non of these women come forward before? Why now, all of a sudden they all feel compelled to acuse the Trump at this time, and these are accusations remember, nothing is proven yet, but hey who gives a sh@t as long as the right person get into the right house ehh !!
I can't actually believe someone would post that but you did

A1: Abuse is hard thing to admit happened, especially when it's all powerful person but even when not it lives with the victims for years and years gnawing away at them

A2: Trump stood in front of 80million people and said it was all talk and he NEVER DID IT, several of the women has said that was the trigger
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 3:13 am
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Why did non of these women come forward before? Why now, all of a sudden they all feel compelled to acuse the Trump at this time, and these are accusations remember, nothing is proven yet, but hey who gives a sh@t as long as the right person get into the right house ehh !!
Perhaps because Trump's campaign team has pushed so hard in two directions: first, to dismiss the whole thing as just "locker room banter" and second, to try to draw the false equivalence into play with Bill Clinton (who, I note, is not running for office) with words like "Trump is just talk, Clinton actually did stuff."

Two things seem to have helped this to backfire. One, of course, is that as soon as somebody lies about their past actions, the victims of their actions might feel obligated to point out that lie. And then, Trump's own history of extramarital affairs makes it very difficult to keep a straight face while listening to him bleating about another man's promiscuity.

Net result: Trump is once again hoist on his own petard, his bluster turns out to be all windbag and no substance, and he has provides as much additional evidence as anybody needed that most of his accusations against others in this campaign have been great big fat projections of his own shortcomings.
 
Old Oct 13th 2016 | 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by Philk
I can't actually believe someone would post that but you did

A1: Abuse is hard thing to admit happened, especially when it's all powerful person but even when not it lives with the victims for years and years gnawing away at them

A2: Trump stood in front of 80million people and said it was all talk and he NEVER DID IT, several of the women has said that was the trigger
Well if he uses Gomeshies lawyer he will be ok I guess.

This election is being fought with every tactic available with no thought for these women as they are dragged thru the media. Guilty or not their identities should be a private matter.

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Old Oct 13th 2016 | 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Who do you define as "MSM"?

FOX News is one of the top rated cable networks.

FOX reports about Clinton's misdeeds pretty much 24/7. How do I know? Because I watch them do it.
Must admit I very rarely watch Fox so I am not up to date on their coverage.

I have always assumed that Trump will not win, so to some extent it is like watching the Raving Monster Loony Party candidate, amusing but irrelevant.

I am slightly surprised he got this far without exploding.

So I tend to be more focused on likely successful candidates, in this case just one.

Which is very worrying.

Does make me wonder what the MSM will do when Trump is gone away, I now assume he will last to election day. There is an awful lot of Hillary stuff to dig through.

Interesting times.
 
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Originally Posted by caretaker
I heard Fox got in trouble for inventing a little news, but I don't get it anyway because I just get basic cable. All the networks I get are reporting that he's a bigger creep than previously reported, and the employees, beauty pagent contestants, and even a fellow passenger on a flight are coming forward and saying how they were kissed and groped against their will, and a few other outrages. Trudeau wouldn't comment during his press q&a with the French PM other than to say his position on violence against women is well known, but he still won't refer to Trump by name and it's obvious he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
feel for you having a total wet blanket like him as your leader

the carbon tax he just rammed through parliament is scandalous, obama would've loved to have done something similar
 


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