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What misdeeds are those? Could you enumerate them for us, please? I think we should be told...
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well, the site i quoted is pretty balanced unlike rag pieces such as the ny times that i saw quoted a few pages back. so yeah, pretty lame i guess if you're comfortable knowing the extent to which the main stream press are colluding with the clinton campaign to get her elected, in addition to yet more evidence she's a massive hypocrite, a perpetual liar etc. in other emails released, clinton's team mocks catholics, rednecks, "needy latinos", sanders voters. all fine i guess if you're determined not to want to know or even care how smug and entitled clinton and the dems actually are. kind of makes a mockery of the anti trump hysteria, though, if you can't stop whinging about him but don't want to hear it when it comes to pretty damaging crap about her
and.... nah, can't be arsed I've had way too many arguments like this
Roll on Nov 8 and Trump and the GOP getting their arses kicked BIGLY
FOX News is one of the top rated cable networks.
FOX reports about Clinton's misdeeds pretty much 24/7. How do I know? Because I watch them do it.
I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood my question.
The link you posted (which I had already commented on above) lists a few instances where politicians appear to be engaging in politics. How, exactly, is office scuttlebutt a "misdeed"? In what way are politicians supposed to manage their communications on issues and positions if their staff don't discuss among themselves what those positions and communications should be? If this is the best that the promised Wikileaks "scandal" has to offer, it is weak stuff indeed.
By contrast, Mr Trump's coverage seems mostly to be genuinely newsworthy - unfortunately for the GOP campaign, mainly for all the wrong reasons. His misogyny looks increasingly as though it consists of deeds rather than words: the women who have come forward over the last few days have seen to that. I don't know whether they were personally motivated to tell their stories, or whether they were encouraged by Trump's political opponents, but if Trump hadn't been so mealy-mouthed in his pseudo-apology for the "pussygate" thing, of if his campaign surrogates hadn't been quite so forcefully trying to dismiss it as "mere locker-room banter," they wouldn't have felt inclined to call him out for actual physical behaviour.
If you were a news editor - even of a Trump-leaning publication - which story is the meatier source of news, therefore readers, therefore advertisers, therefore revenue? 75/25 seems a generous split of coverage to me...
The link you posted (which I had already commented on above) lists a few instances where politicians appear to be engaging in politics. How, exactly, is office scuttlebutt a "misdeed"? In what way are politicians supposed to manage their communications on issues and positions if their staff don't discuss among themselves what those positions and communications should be? If this is the best that the promised Wikileaks "scandal" has to offer, it is weak stuff indeed.
By contrast, Mr Trump's coverage seems mostly to be genuinely newsworthy - unfortunately for the GOP campaign, mainly for all the wrong reasons. His misogyny looks increasingly as though it consists of deeds rather than words: the women who have come forward over the last few days have seen to that. I don't know whether they were personally motivated to tell their stories, or whether they were encouraged by Trump's political opponents, but if Trump hadn't been so mealy-mouthed in his pseudo-apology for the "pussygate" thing, of if his campaign surrogates hadn't been quite so forcefully trying to dismiss it as "mere locker-room banter," they wouldn't have felt inclined to call him out for actual physical behaviour.
If you were a news editor - even of a Trump-leaning publication - which story is the meatier source of news, therefore readers, therefore advertisers, therefore revenue? 75/25 seems a generous split of coverage to me...
I heard Fox got in trouble for inventing a little news, but I don't get it anyway because I just get basic cable. All the networks I get are reporting that he's a bigger creep than previously reported, and the employees, beauty pagent contestants, and even a fellow passenger on a flight are coming forward and saying how they were kissed and groped against their will, and a few other outrages. Trudeau wouldn't comment during his press q&a with the French PM other than to say his position on violence against women is well known, but he still won't refer to Trump by name and it's obvious he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
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Why did non of these women come forward before? Why now, all of a sudden they all feel compelled to acuse the Trump at this time, and these are accusations remember, nothing is proven yet, but hey who gives a sh@t as long as the right person get into the right house ehh !!
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Why did non of these women come forward before? Why now, all of a sudden they all feel compelled to acuse the Trump at this time, and these are accusations remember, nothing is proven yet, but hey who gives a sh@t as long as the right person get into the right house ehh !!
A1: Abuse is hard thing to admit happened, especially when it's all powerful person but even when not it lives with the victims for years and years gnawing away at them
A2: Trump stood in front of 80million people and said it was all talk and he NEVER DID IT, several of the women has said that was the trigger
Why did non of these women come forward before? Why now, all of a sudden they all feel compelled to acuse the Trump at this time, and these are accusations remember, nothing is proven yet, but hey who gives a sh@t as long as the right person get into the right house ehh !!
Two things seem to have helped this to backfire. One, of course, is that as soon as somebody lies about their past actions, the victims of their actions might feel obligated to point out that lie. And then, Trump's own history of extramarital affairs makes it very difficult to keep a straight face while listening to him bleating about another man's promiscuity.
Net result: Trump is once again hoist on his own petard, his bluster turns out to be all windbag and no substance, and he has provides as much additional evidence as anybody needed that most of his accusations against others in this campaign have been great big fat projections of his own shortcomings.
I can't actually believe someone would post that but you did
A1: Abuse is hard thing to admit happened, especially when it's all powerful person but even when not it lives with the victims for years and years gnawing away at them
A2: Trump stood in front of 80million people and said it was all talk and he NEVER DID IT, several of the women has said that was the trigger
A1: Abuse is hard thing to admit happened, especially when it's all powerful person but even when not it lives with the victims for years and years gnawing away at them
A2: Trump stood in front of 80million people and said it was all talk and he NEVER DID IT, several of the women has said that was the trigger
This election is being fought with every tactic available with no thought for these women as they are dragged thru the media. Guilty or not their identities should be a private matter.
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I have always assumed that Trump will not win, so to some extent it is like watching the Raving Monster Loony Party candidate, amusing but irrelevant.
I am slightly surprised he got this far without exploding.
So I tend to be more focused on likely successful candidates, in this case just one.
Which is very worrying.
Does make me wonder what the MSM will do when Trump is gone away, I now assume he will last to election day. There is an awful lot of Hillary stuff to dig through.
Interesting times.
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I heard Fox got in trouble for inventing a little news, but I don't get it anyway because I just get basic cable. All the networks I get are reporting that he's a bigger creep than previously reported, and the employees, beauty pagent contestants, and even a fellow passenger on a flight are coming forward and saying how they were kissed and groped against their will, and a few other outrages. Trudeau wouldn't comment during his press q&a with the French PM other than to say his position on violence against women is well known, but he still won't refer to Trump by name and it's obvious he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
the carbon tax he just rammed through parliament is scandalous, obama would've loved to have done something similar





