George HW Bush threw up all over Japan and then fainted. George W Bush gave himself a concussion by eating popcorn. Gerald Ford fell down every time he turned around. Richard Nixon was a walking ball of sweat. John McCain suffered multiple bouts of cancer. Need I go on?

I know she doesn't keep the money. She hardly needs the money for food does she? It's the sheer greed and cost of US political campaigns that annoys me...on both sides of the aisle.

I've said before I didn't agree with the speculation about her health. Campaigning almost every day for over a year at their age...I take my hat off to both of them.

It was CNN's interpretation actually.

I think I'm annoyed at this whole thing because of the double standard. A few weeks ago, Donald Trump cancelled a bunch of events and pretty much disappeared for a week. At the time I thought he was probably getting run-down and needed a break. And, I didn't think that was a bad thing. The older I get, the harder I work. But now I use the weekends to rest and recharge rather than to party and run around having fun.

On the last night of the convention I thought she looked fantastic...but this last week she looked dreadful. She has a couple health problems for which she takes meds for...that and her age...she should have taken her doctor's advice more seriously.

Not to forget John F Kennedy who with his chronic back problem would have been almost permanently wheelchair bound but for steroid treatment and on top of that Addison's disease. Didn't stop him effectively campaigning against Nixon in a campaign that was long, hard and neck to neck much of the time

I don't disagree with any of this. However, Donald Trump never looks healthy to me. He looks bloated and puffy. He's sweaty and red-faced. He smears orange stuff all over himself and does a comb-over to hide his age ... yet he still looks like crap. We've got two 70ish candidates ... of the two of them, he looks much worse most of the time.

He's not struck me as looking ill at all. An overweight clown yes...ill no.

I don't think either of the Clintons look well...I remember you and I have discussed Bill's health before. .

Bill looks like shit but he's not running for president or vice president. Melania Trump is probably bulimic but I don't care about her either.

I've never thought of Hillary as looking "ill" because she doesn't. She looks great. She's currently suffering from pneumonia and probably has been for at least a week ... that's not the same thing as being chronically ill.

Hillary's health problems if there's any substance to the rumours that seem to be circulating are small change compared to Trump's character flaws, the most serious ones being his limited attention span, his complete naivety in the matter of world affairs and in all probability his inability to work with advisors who might differ in the matter of opinions to those of his own

Exactly...that's why I said she looked good at the convention but recently looked ill. Pneumonia isn't the same as being chronically ill...but it can have deadly consequences.

Indeed!

FDR was secretly in a wheelchair. Lincoln was frail and emaciated and, according to many historians, quite likely would have died in office had he not been assassinated. Washington suffered from debilitating boils on his bottom. Grant was an alcoholic and heavy smoker. Obama was a secret smoker. LBJ was quite likely insane towards the end of his presidency.

Sorry to bore but presidential history is one of my things.

Trump started this ridiculous "conspiracy" about Clinton's health with his habitual projecting. Whatever Trump is guilty of, he accuses Clinton of. He said that she just does one event and then goes home and goes to sleep. The truth is that she does numerous events every single day. She tends to keep 12+ hour work days with several speeches, local appearances, rope lines, fund raisers (which Trump rarely does even though it is actually his JOB and expected of the nominee for the down-ballot races as well as the top of the ticket) meanwhile Trump does one rally and then gets back on his plane and eats KFC and tweets.

Quite. I'd rather have Hillary in any condition. If, God forbid, anything happened to her, Tim Kaine is still so much better than Trump. It's not even close.

Without any attribution or quote marks...I thought on BE you post it, you own it.

Glad to know you disagree with what you now say was CNN's interpretation.
Or maybe... you don't

Golly gosh...silly me...I didn't realize that was a BE rule. Maybe admin should have updated me?

I like to keep an open mind...unlike many in this and other BE political threads.

I'm wondering after this morning's episode...why they didn't take her to the hospital. They knew she had pneumonia...it can get extremely serious very quickly. I am also confused why it took so long...last Friday...for a diagnosis. Even little old me had a quick diagnosis and it seems we both had bacterial pneumonia...thus the antibiotics. Hopefully she will recover quicker than I so she can make the debates.