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Old Apr 20th 2016 | 12:45 am
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Originally Posted by dakota44
"Following Bernies Sanders New York upset, campaign manager Jeff Weaver appeared on MSNBC to say even if Hillary Clinton wins the all the delegates required to secure the nomination and leads the popular vote, the Vermont senator's campaign would fight to flip superdelegates all the way to the convention. "It's going to be an election determined by the superdelegates," he said, contradicting the campaign's previous power-by-the people rhetoric. "

Apparently Sanders no longer believes in the will of the voters.
Man running for President would quite like to win nomination shocker. Spinning the race to keep the fundraising spigot on is not a new phenomenon.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
Man running for President would quite like to win nomination shocker. Spinning the race to keep the fundraising spigot on is not a new phenomenon.
Not surprising, just hypocritical.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by themadpooper
Sanders is the candidate of choice for several demographics, seemingly the only people who vote for Clinton are African Americans and Democrat loyalists.
Are black votes only worth three-fifths of white votes

Someone remind me how far ahead in the popular vote Clinton is... oh, here we go:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ote_count.html

So 10.4 to 7.7m.

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Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Are black votes only worth three-fifths of white votes

Someone remind me how far ahead in the popular vote Clinton is... oh, here we go:

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Democratic Popular Vote

So 10.4 to 7.7m.
What's strange is the different narrative on the Republican side where Trump is up by 2.3m votes and yet he is struggling to win the nomination.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:13 am
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
Not surprising, just hypocritical.
Agreed, turns out Sanders is a politician after all.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:17 am
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Drug advocate? Is that a job?
Seems to be quite a few in Colorado.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:18 am
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OK, having been following this conversation for several months now but what does 'WFP' mean? The only thing I can find is World Food Program.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by jjmb
OK, having been following this conversation for several months now but what does 'WFP' mean? The only thing I can find is World Food Program.
Working Families Party.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:25 am
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Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by jjmb
OK, having been following this conversation for several months now but what does 'WFP' mean? The only thing I can find is World Food Program.
Originally Posted by dakota44
Working Families Party.
Yeah sorry. It's a big thing in New York, because here, we can have multiple parties endorsing the same candidate. So Democratic Party and WFP endorse the same candidate for President or for US Senator (for instance,) but each party vies to get votes on their line. On the political right, we have Republicans and Conservatives here in New York. (Conservatives are like Republicans, but a bit more angry and batshit.)
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:35 am
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The WFP was, by some opinions, supposed to be Bernies saviour in NY. Ooops.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:36 am
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We're heading for an American first: Trump vs Clinton – a presidential fight between two hated candidates | Voices | The Independent

Going to get nasty
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
What's strange is the different narrative on the Republican side where Trump is up by 2.3m votes and yet he is struggling to win the nomination.
Wishful thinking on the part of the Republican establishment.

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Old Apr 20th 2016 | 4:29 am
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Perhaps, though I think the polls indicate more Dems will shrug and vote Hillary than Reps shrug and vote Trump.

Trump also has the etch a sketch problem. You can't just shake your campaign and start again from scratch.
 
Old Apr 20th 2016 | 5:16 am
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Now it looks like Clinton v Trump, I suppose we should be wondering who the VP picks will be and I wonder if that will be deciding factor. I will vote democrat but I really cannot stand Hilary Clinton, especially when she pulls those faces of her, they just come across as smug, condescending and false.
Also both of them turn 69/70 this year, so unlikely be 2 term Presidents, so the VP will be of utmost importance to both parties, I would imagine.

Did anyone see Paul Ryan on the
last night. Definitely a back room pick if it comes down to a third/fourth ballot.
 


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