2016 Election
Jul 8th 2015 | 4:38 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Jul 8th 2015 | 4:38 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Under Clinton, the republicans initiated the Whitewater congressional hearings which went in all different directions for years until they finally caught him lying about sex which had nothing to do with Whitewater.
Jul 8th 2015 | 5:57 am
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Jul 8th 2015 | 6:00 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Jul 8th 2015 | 6:04 am
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Jul 8th 2015 | 8:46 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I guess it was Obama's fault that that the US economy was falling into a hell hole with 800,000 jobs being lost every month and Obama wanted to create a stimulus package and invited the republicans to participate in deciding but they all dropped out under pressure from the republican party even though over 1/3rd of the stimulus package was towards tax breaks which was favored by the republicans but not by the democrats.
It also must have been Obama's fault that Nixon wanted universal health care and the republicans supposedly had a proposal for universal health care under Clinton but when Obama proposed universal health care and invited the republicans to participate in drafting the law, they refused and even though the final law was very similar to the Nixon proposal, what the republicans claimed was their proposal under Clinton, and similar to the bill that Romney passed in MA that was supported by the Heritage Foundation, it was the bill from hell.
So I don't understand what you mean by rigid. I guess the opposite of rigid is to let the minority republicans decide 100% what bills they want to pass, how to run the economy, and which social programs are acceptable and how they are to be implemented.
Reagan wanted to create the largest pure Keynesian economics program in modern US history with his military buildup and even though the democrats opposed that and wanted to spend money on infrastructure, they decided that Regan was president and let him have his way.
When the democrats won the house in 2006, many democrats wanted Pelosi to start congressional hearings into investigating why the US went into Iraq which cost trillions of dollars and thousands of US lives but Pelosi refused but when 4 Americans were killed in Libya, Darrell ISA started hearing that have been going on for years.
I really don't understand what the definition of bipartisanship means to the current republican party.
Finally Boehner got a little backbone recently. He supported Fast Track for trade with Asia and when his junior tea party members voted it down since there was provisions to assist employees displaced by the agreement, he removed several of those members from committee positions and the Fast Track bill was finally passed. That is about as close to bipartisanship that I have seen in the past 6 years.
It also must have been Obama's fault that Nixon wanted universal health care and the republicans supposedly had a proposal for universal health care under Clinton but when Obama proposed universal health care and invited the republicans to participate in drafting the law, they refused and even though the final law was very similar to the Nixon proposal, what the republicans claimed was their proposal under Clinton, and similar to the bill that Romney passed in MA that was supported by the Heritage Foundation, it was the bill from hell.
So I don't understand what you mean by rigid. I guess the opposite of rigid is to let the minority republicans decide 100% what bills they want to pass, how to run the economy, and which social programs are acceptable and how they are to be implemented.
Reagan wanted to create the largest pure Keynesian economics program in modern US history with his military buildup and even though the democrats opposed that and wanted to spend money on infrastructure, they decided that Regan was president and let him have his way.
When the democrats won the house in 2006, many democrats wanted Pelosi to start congressional hearings into investigating why the US went into Iraq which cost trillions of dollars and thousands of US lives but Pelosi refused but when 4 Americans were killed in Libya, Darrell ISA started hearing that have been going on for years.
I really don't understand what the definition of bipartisanship means to the current republican party.
Finally Boehner got a little backbone recently. He supported Fast Track for trade with Asia and when his junior tea party members voted it down since there was provisions to assist employees displaced by the agreement, he removed several of those members from committee positions and the Fast Track bill was finally passed. That is about as close to bipartisanship that I have seen in the past 6 years.
There is a fixed assumption, accepted as received Gospel here, that Bush and the Republicans, unlike the Democrats, are both Stupid and Evil and entirely responsible for Everything Bad, not only here but in the world at large. It's utter rubbish, but there it is.
As for rigid: compromise means each side giving up something they have or want to get something they want even more. Rigid people don't compromise and usually end up getting less than what they wanted. When a President invites the other side to the WH to discuss solutions, then just lectures them and says in effect it's his way or the highway - that's rigid. Such a President doesn't have the negotiating skills of a Bill Clinton. My only suggestion was that Jim Webb would likely have more success with the likely 2017 Congress than Hillary. I might be wrong, but I doubt it.
Jul 8th 2015 | 8:59 am
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Re: 2016 Election
As for rigid: compromise means each side giving up something they have or want to get something they want even more. Rigid people don't compromise and usually end up getting less than what they wanted. When a President invites the other side to the WH to discuss solutions, then just lectures them and says in effect it's his way or the highway - that's rigid.
Jul 8th 2015 | 9:05 am
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Jul 8th 2015 | 9:14 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders = Hitler.
Jul 8th 2015 | 9:44 am
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Re: 2016 Election
John Boehner: 'We will not compromise' - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com
The Republican Definition of 'Compromise' - US News
A Warning to Republican Elites: Compromise is Not the Solution - The Rush Limbaugh Show
The New New Deal: Why the GOP Became the Party of No | TIME.com
Grover Norquist - Raising Taxes isn't Compromise
Ted Cruz: 'I'll compromise with Martians' - Washington Times
Santorum, Huckabee Resist GOP Call for Compromise on Social Issues
Jul 8th 2015 | 9:58 am
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Re: 2016 Election
The GOP is all in favor of compromise, just as long as it is the Democrats who are doing all of the compromising.
Jul 9th 2015 | 5:30 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I see John Ellis Bush Bush has been putting his foot in his mouth again and thinks the way to fix the economy is for everyone to work harder. Yep, that'll do it...
Jeb Bush says Americans ‘need to work longer hours’ to earn more | US news | The Guardian
Jeb Bush says Americans ‘need to work longer hours’ to earn more | US news | The Guardian
Jul 9th 2015 | 5:55 am
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Jul 9th 2015 | 6:50 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I see John Ellis Bush Bush has been putting his foot in his mouth again and thinks the way to fix the economy is for everyone to work harder. Yep, that'll do it...
Jeb Bush says Americans ‘need to work longer hours’ to earn more | US news | The Guardian
Jeb Bush says Americans ‘need to work longer hours’ to earn more | US news | The Guardian
