Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 11890777)

That isn't how it works. The Republicans loathe her because (a) she is Hillary Clinton and (b) a member of the opposing party. Her policies are irrelevant; she is not being judged by the right based upon her positions or track record, but based upon the fact that she is The Other and therefore must be destroyed.

That being said, they would much prefer to have Bernie Sanders as an opponent because he can be torn to shreds as a pinko commie socialist. They haven't bothered to attack him because it is presumed that he will not be the nominee and because they are hoping against hope that he might be the nominee. Their efforts to attack Clinton has gone as far as they can go and they really won't be able to do much to her that they haven't done already, whereas Sanders represents fresh meat.

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11890788)

Hillary Clinton:

Hillary Clinton previews plan to expand Obamacare and lower health costs - LA Times

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11890789)

I also gave you a reasonable answer to that. Again, I am not a prophet.

Frankly, I don't really like Clinton at all. I like Bernie, but only because he's kind of a cute old guy with an honest passion.

But in politics of the two, her chances are far better.

I am a right-leaning centrist by nature, but there is not one republican candidate that I find remotely sensible. The entire party is living in an alternate reality.

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11890799)

The idea that just because Clinton's policies are more moderate some how makes them more realistic shows you haven't been paying attention over the last few years. Compromise is a dirty word to Republicans in Congress. Anything that is proposed by a Democrat will be shot down. Why does anyone think that is going to change?

Case in point: after Sandy Hook, Obama tried to expand background checks, something that was supported by 90% of the population. Couldn't get it done. Why? Because the NRA and their pet Congressmen stopped it.

Everything that Obama has proposed has been shot down, and I don't see how that will change if Clinton is President.

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11890794)

She's proposing that Medicare be allowed to negotiate prescription drug prices (in the same manner that the VA can) and the ability to import drugs under certain circumstances. Is that an expansion of the ACA? Not really, unless you believe that any legislation on healthcare moving forward is an "expansion of the ACA".

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11890802)

Well then, don't vote. That'll show 'em.

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11890806)

It's way more than that. And again how is it going to get through Congress?

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11890799)

Case in point: after Sandy Hook, Obama tried to expand background checks, something that was supported by 90% of the population. Couldn't get it done. Why? Because the NRA and their pet Congressmen stopped it.

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11890792)

Aside from the loathing part (which is true) that's pretty much what I said.

Originally Posted by dakota44 (Post 11890811)

One would hope that if Trump is the nominee the Republican down ticket will take a hit and the Dems will take control of at least the Senate and possibly the House.

Originally Posted by dakota44 (Post 11890811)

One would hope that if Trump is the nominee the Republican down ticket will take a hit and the Dems will take control of at least the Senate and possibly the House.

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11890816)

Agreed, but there's way to much gerrymandering to make that the House flipping likely.

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 11890815)

That isn't what you said. At all.

Contrary to your assertions, Clinton's centrism makes no difference in how diehard Republicans perceive her. She could shift left or right, and it would make no difference at all.

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11890823)

Then vote for Bernie.

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11890806)

It's way more than that. And again how is it going to get through Congress?

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/