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Michigan awards delegates proportionally, so they'll both get about the same number.
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I never expected he would ever win the nomination and I dont now either, but glad he has run and allowed voters to atleast have more choice.
Now how many Sanders supporters will support Clinton in the fall?
I personally wont nor any republican.
My state is Clinton safe though and as such I dont feel a pressing need to vote for someone to keep another out since other then Sanders there are no other candiates to support.
Now how many Sanders supporters will support Clinton in the fall?
I personally wont nor any republican.
My state is Clinton safe though and as such I dont feel a pressing need to vote for someone to keep another out since other then Sanders there are no other candiates to support.
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I never expected he would ever win the nomination and I dont now either, but glad he has run and allowed voters to atleast have more choice.
Now how many Sanders supporters will support Clinton in the fall?
I personally wont nor any republican.
My state is Clinton safe though and as such I dont feel a pressing need to vote for someone to keep another out since other then Sanders there are no other candiates to support.
Now how many Sanders supporters will support Clinton in the fall?
I personally wont nor any republican.
My state is Clinton safe though and as such I dont feel a pressing need to vote for someone to keep another out since other then Sanders there are no other candiates to support.
Bernie, god bless him. He really believes in his idealistic, naive (but well-meaning) dream. But in reality, first 2 years in office, republican congress will put his lights out, block everything, ruin the economy, lay all the blame on him, then proceed to lay the groundwork for a republican landslide victory in next election.
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What exactly is the appeal of Sanders beyond idealism? His key policies wouldn't be remotely doable, even if the Dem's won back control of congress. On healthcare, there's not enough appetite among the Dem establishment, let alone moderate Republicans, to tear up Obamacare and start again given how much they went through to pass it in the first place. His college tuition plans are literally mental and would cause 1000s of private colleges to go burst, including black ones. His economic model is based on forecasts that far outweigh even the most optimistic predictions. He has no foreign policy, just a flat out blanket promise to never deploy US troops abroad. He offers nothing to the millions of Americans who feel Christianity is under attack by the federal government, where it's bordering on illegal to even proudly announce the line "god save America". It's frightening to think there are intelligent people beyond students who genuinely advocate his policies as a way forward for America
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What exactly is the appeal of Sanders beyond idealism? His key policies wouldn't be remotely doable, even if the Dem's won back control of congress. On healthcare, there's not enough appetite among the Dem establishment, let alone moderate Republicans, to tear up Obamacare and start again given how much they went through to pass it in the first place. His college tuition plans are literally mental and would cause 1000s of private colleges to go burst, including black ones. His economic model is based on forecasts that far outweigh even the most optimistic predictions. He has no foreign policy, just a flat out blanket promise to never deploy US troops abroad. He offers nothing to the millions of Americans who feel Christianity is under attack by the federal government, where it's bordering on illegal to even proudly announce the line "god save America". It's frightening to think there are intelligent people beyond students who genuinely advocate his policies as a way forward for America
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Again, it isn't. It's an utterly stupid thing to say, but it still isn't, nor will it ever be, illegal. Religion has no place in legislation anyway, but the separation between church and state is being eroded by these backwards thinking bronze age relics on the right. Hopefully we can breed out these ridiculous people in the next few generations.
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This is how all the media should be talking about the election...
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This is who all the media should be talking about the election...
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The whole thing about Sanders' policies not being realistic. That's fine, but I've not seen an explanation any where showing how Clinton's policies are realistic. Which of Clinton's proposals are going to get through the current Congress?
And note this isn't a specific dig at Clinton, I don't see how any Democrat would have more success that Obama as President.
Also, did anyone actually watch Trump's audition for host of QVC last night, it was just bizarre.
And note this isn't a specific dig at Clinton, I don't see how any Democrat would have more success that Obama as President.
Also, did anyone actually watch Trump's audition for host of QVC last night, it was just bizarre.
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The whole thing about Sanders' policies not being realistic. That's fine, but I've not seen an explanation any where showing how Clinton's policies are realistic. Which of Clinton's proposals are going to get through the current Congress?
And note this isn't a specific dig at Clinton, I don't see how any Democrat would have more success that Obama as President.
Also, did anyone actually watch Trump's audition for host of QVC last night, it was just bizarre.
And note this isn't a specific dig at Clinton, I don't see how any Democrat would have more success that Obama as President.
Also, did anyone actually watch Trump's audition for host of QVC last night, it was just bizarre.
Bernie's idealism is completely unrealistic, if for no other reason than like Clinton, he'll be tied to a whipping post for the first 2 years, unable to achieve any resemblance of his dramatic reforms, only to be voted out at the end of the first term for not having achieved anything.
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