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SultanOfSwing Mar 4th 2016 9:22 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886519)
Everything is subjective unless quantified with actual facts, none of which any of us can be arsed to produce.

You're dealing with intangibles as it is.


Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886519)
I've travelled extensively and lived all over the UK before I moved here.

You have been privileged enough to be well traveled. Travel is supposed to broaden the mind, is it not? Seems to have been wasted on you, such a shame.


Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886519)
When all said and done, America is the greatest country in the world,

Bollocks. If you want to go with the facts, the US barely registers on things like quality of life, HDI, life expectancy. Way down the list in science and technology when they were once world leaders in that field. Certainly, America was once great, was once right up there. Now? Not so much. I say that as someone who does like the place and who wants it to regain a semblance of greatness, it's constructive criticism rather than a put down, but for christ's sake, flag down a black cab and head for Real Street.

What is America #1 at? To quote the great speech from Newsroom: "Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending where spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies"

Yeah, OK.


Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886519)
... that's why so many of us live here and in many cases will never go back.

Hmm. I'll likely not go back because I like it here, I'm settled here and a return to the UK is financial suicide at this time. That doesn't mean it's the greatest anything, it's just the best fit for me right now. The UK isn't the greatest either. There is a whole world beyond that which any of us knows, unless someone is so lucky as to have traveled to every country (or to the 100 odd someone like Josh Gates, the lucky bastard, has been to).


Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886519)
To be in denial about America's greatness or to simply rubbish my statement as jingoism when to be American is to love your country first and foremost, I think is very strange from an immigrant pov. The British don't do flag waving so my pov understandably won't sit well on a forum of ex pat Brits but it's shared by the vast majority of Americans, I assure you

Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks.

scrubbedexpat097 Mar 4th 2016 9:24 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886554)

So what is your problem with African Americans?

username.exe Mar 4th 2016 9:41 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Ben Carson has formally suspended his campaign, now.

McZaki Mar 4th 2016 9:44 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Donald Trump reverses position on torture, killing terrorists' families
Donald Trump reverses position on torture - CNNPolitics.com

I guess by Nov, he'll admit that he is a Drumpf #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain

sir_eccles Mar 4th 2016 9:51 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by McZaki (Post 11886592)
Donald Trump reverses position on torture, killing terrorists' families
Donald Trump reverses position on torture - CNNPolitics.com

I guess by Nov, he'll admit that he is a Drumpf #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain

In previous years this would have him branded as a "flip flopper" and his poll numbers would take a huge (sorry yuuuge!) hit.

themadpooper Mar 4th 2016 9:51 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Sugarmooma (Post 11886568)
So what is your problem with African Americans?

What is your problem with Thatcher?

sir_eccles Mar 4th 2016 9:53 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886599)
What is your problem with Thatcher?

She snatched my milk!

dc koop Mar 4th 2016 10:01 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Which is the "greatest" country in the world?

Not Canada, Australia or New Zealand certainly. They have their own problems

Russia or China having populations either the same size or larger than the US? Not a chance

Where else? Europe ? Not these days with millions of refugees flooding across it's borders

Africa anywhere? Mostly a collection of basket case states economically and or politically

The middle east anywhere? :lol: India has an extremely large imbalance between rich and poor

South America? Brazil once showed signs of becoming a major player but the percentage of poor is still very significant

Not much left of the world is there ?

scrubbedexpat097 Mar 4th 2016 10:03 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886599)
What is your problem with Thatcher?

Having a problem with the leader of a country and her policies is not the same ...as you well know:zzz:

username.exe Mar 4th 2016 10:03 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11886598)
In previous years this would have him branded as a "flip flopper" and his poll numbers would take a huge (sorry yuuuge!) hit.

Those accusations usually do tremendous damage to regular politicians, but The Donald seems impervious. In fact last night, when the flip-flop accusation came up he barely seemed to ruffle a feather.

I think a better set of opponents would have capitalized on that better.

scrubbedexpat097 Mar 4th 2016 10:03 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11886603)
She snatched my milk!

:thumbup:

kimilseung Mar 4th 2016 10:16 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 11886614)
Which is the "greatest" country in the world?

The problem is with the question, especially when its a rhetorical question. Its a bit of a silly question.

themadpooper Mar 4th 2016 10:22 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 11886614)
Which is the "greatest" country in the world?

Not Canada, Australia or New Zealand certainly. They have their own problems

Russia or China having populations either the same size or larger than the US? Not a chance

Where else? Europe ? Not these days with millions of refugees flooding across it's borders

Africa anywhere? Mostly a collection of basket case states economically and or politically

The middle east anywhere? :lol: India has an extremely large imbalance between rich and poor

South America? Brazil once showed signs of becoming a major player but the percentage of poor is still very significant

Not much left of the world is there ?

The Nordic countries are commonly viewed as the best, at least for happiness, health and general well being

I've been to Sweden and Denmark, pleasant enough countries but generally boring outside the few cities they have and it's very expensive. The people are uptight and joyless. Not much of a climate beyond cold and dampness a la the UK. Sweden in particular have some very bizarre laws, especially on alcohol consumption. I can't be bothered to google their economic output but I'm pretty sure it lags well behind the leading European countries, let alone America's

dc koop Mar 4th 2016 10:22 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11886636)
The problem is with the question, especially when its a rhetorical question. Its a bit of a silly question.

It is a silly question and that's why I asked it. You can travel to any spot anywhere in the world, think it's the garden of Eden for awhile then sooner or later you see the down sides.

All in all despite the silliness over politics and religion the US is still the best bet far as I'm concerned

username.exe Mar 4th 2016 10:30 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by themadpooper (Post 11886642)
The Nordic countries are commonly viewed as the best, at least for happiness, health and general well being

I've been to Sweden and Denmark, pleasant enough countries but generally boring outside the few cities they have and it's very expensive. The people are uptight and joyless. Not much of a climate beyond cold and dampness a la the UK. Sweden in particular have some very bizarre laws, especially on alcohol consumption. I can't be bothered to google their economic output but I'm pretty sure it lags well behind the leading European countries, let alone America's

Different strokes for different folks.


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