2016 Election
#4262
This week's undercard debate should feature George Pataki vs a bar of lard (like that episode of HIGNFY from a few years back).
#4263
Trump - greed
Cruz - wrath
Rubio - gluttony
Kasich - lust
Bush - envy
Carson - sloth
Gilmore - pride
See if Christie was in Gluttony would have been much easier to place.
#4264

Trump - gluttony!!! Obvious!
Seven Dwarfs.
Fatty (Donald)
Shitty (Cruz)
Goofy (Kasich)
Skinny (Bush)
Sleepy (Carson)
Empty (Rubio)
Invisible (Gilmore) --- I don't even remember what he looks like.
EDIT: Cruz could be any of the following --- ratty, snaky, weasely, etc.
#4265
Settlin' for Hillary

But Feelin' the Bern!


But Feelin' the Bern!
Last edited by FlaviusAetius; Feb 10th 2016 at 12:53 pm.
#4266
Regarding the prolonged debate earlier, you're both right. Two things can be true at once. I think it's more an argument about tone and/or political pragmatism vs. optimism.
I think this was mentioned, Hillary is going negative and extreme. The Clinton campaign, with the surrogates making a mess, and the negative ad buys, could alienate Bernie's die hard base. This may not lose her the primary but it could cost her the general.
I think this was mentioned, Hillary is going negative and extreme. The Clinton campaign, with the surrogates making a mess, and the negative ad buys, could alienate Bernie's die hard base. This may not lose her the primary but it could cost her the general.
#4267
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After Crushing Defeat, DNC Quirk Still Gives Hillary More New Hampshire Delegates Than Sanders
Posted By Derek Hunter On 9:11 AM 02/10/2016 In | No Comments
Though Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire primary in a landslide over Hillary Clinton, he will likely receive fewer delegates than she will.
Sanders won 60 percent of the vote, but thanks to the Democratic Party’s nominating system, he leaves the Granite State with at least 13 delegates while she leaves with at least 15 delegates.
New Hampshire has 24 “pledged†delegates, which are allotted based on the popular vote. Sanders has 13, and Clinton has 9, with 2 currently allotted to neither.
But under Democratic National Committee rules, New Hampshire also has 8 “superdelegates,†party officials who are free to commit to whomever they like, regardless of how their state votes. Their votes count the same as delegates won through the primary.
New Hampshire has 8 superdelegates, 6 of which are committed to Hillary Clinton, giving her a total of 15 delegates from New Hampshire as of Wednesday at 9 a.m.
The state’s 2 remaining superdelegates remain uncommitted.
In the overall delegate count, Clinton holds a commanding lead after a razor-thin victory in Iowa and a shellacking in New Hampshire. Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders.
http://dailycaller.c...r-loss/?print=1
Posted By Derek Hunter On 9:11 AM 02/10/2016 In | No Comments
Though Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire primary in a landslide over Hillary Clinton, he will likely receive fewer delegates than she will.
Sanders won 60 percent of the vote, but thanks to the Democratic Party’s nominating system, he leaves the Granite State with at least 13 delegates while she leaves with at least 15 delegates.
New Hampshire has 24 “pledged†delegates, which are allotted based on the popular vote. Sanders has 13, and Clinton has 9, with 2 currently allotted to neither.
But under Democratic National Committee rules, New Hampshire also has 8 “superdelegates,†party officials who are free to commit to whomever they like, regardless of how their state votes. Their votes count the same as delegates won through the primary.
New Hampshire has 8 superdelegates, 6 of which are committed to Hillary Clinton, giving her a total of 15 delegates from New Hampshire as of Wednesday at 9 a.m.
The state’s 2 remaining superdelegates remain uncommitted.
In the overall delegate count, Clinton holds a commanding lead after a razor-thin victory in Iowa and a shellacking in New Hampshire. Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders.
http://dailycaller.c...r-loss/?print=1
#4268
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According to this article, 747 of 5,083 (14.7%) Democratic delegates are "superdelegates" and 437 of 2470 (17.7%) Republican delegates are "uncommitted":
Superdelegates
Superdelegates
#4269
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For one, your rewriting of political history vis-a-vis McGovern. My comments re: the reasons for his 1972 defeat were not out of left field (no pun intended), but are widely accepted by those who study politics. McGovern built his support within the Democratic party by expanding access to the types of constituents who would support him, but came at the loss of others in the party and the swing voters. The comparisons to McGovern are appropriate.
For another, your dismissal of the socialism problem. A Gallup poll last year found that a socialist candidate would be less acceptable than an atheist or a Muslim.
In U.S., Socialist Presidential Candidates Least Appealing
Populist candidates tend to fare poorly in American presidential elections. Given the track record, you really need to be able to explain why this time is different, because it almost never is.
For another, your dismissal of the socialism problem. A Gallup poll last year found that a socialist candidate would be less acceptable than an atheist or a Muslim.
In U.S., Socialist Presidential Candidates Least Appealing
Populist candidates tend to fare poorly in American presidential elections. Given the track record, you really need to be able to explain why this time is different, because it almost never is.
#4270
Interesting article by Michelle Alexander as to why Hillary should not necessarily consider the black vote to be in her back pocket. Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote | The Nation
#4271
Bernies on Late Night with Colbert. Have to admit I do like the guy and what he stands for.
#4272
For one, your rewriting of political history vis-a-vis McGovern. My comments re: the reasons for his 1972 defeat were not out of left field (no pun intended), but are widely accepted by those who study politics. McGovern built his support within the Democratic party by expanding access to the types of constituents who would support him, but came at the loss of others in the party and the swing voters. The comparisons to McGovern are appropriate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-lose-in-1972/
Remember and Thank George McGovern | The Nation
Also, politics is very different now than it was in 1972. The DNC was still very fractured after the clusterfck convention in 1968. That plus the fact politics is far more polarised now means there are a lot more yellow dog Democrats now.
Don't forget the GOP thought Reagan was going to be another Goldwater.
Is Bernie Sanders the Ronald Reagan of 2016?
For another, your dismissal of the socialism problem. A Gallup poll last year found that a socialist candidate would be less acceptable than an atheist or a Muslim.
In U.S., Socialist Presidential Candidates Least Appealing
Populist candidates tend to fare poorly in American presidential elections. Given the track record, you really need to be able to explain why this time is different, because it almost never is.
In U.S., Socialist Presidential Candidates Least Appealing
Populist candidates tend to fare poorly in American presidential elections. Given the track record, you really need to be able to explain why this time is different, because it almost never is.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1282...thwhile-gamble
As for what is different this time. Think about what has to happen for Sanders to become the nominee. He has to overcome his problem with minorities, he has to overcome Clinton's natural advantage with women, he has to overcome Clinton's advantage with moderates and independents, he has to overcome the DNC and Clinton's surrogates, he has to overcome the Clinton political machine and the advantage Clinton has in superdelegates, and he has to overcome the media and punditocracy saying a socialist can never be President and that nominated Sanders gives the GOP the White House.
Now think about that, if and it's still a big if, Sanders can overcome all of that, why can't he go on to win the Presidency?
#4273
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In any case, Hillary Clinton has the superdelegates in her back pocket, so her nomination is pretty much a done deal. She would have to fail miserably in upcoming primaries to jeopardize that.
#4274
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Agree it is all a fix, FBI are probably the best hope and that is up to Barry.
#4275
In other business news, Carly Fiorina is 'now available for speaking engagements' - LA Times
How cute, Carly is "now available for speaking engagements around the world."
How soon until Ben is back on his book tour?
How cute, Carly is "now available for speaking engagements around the world."
How soon until Ben is back on his book tour?



