2016 Election
#3901
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 12,894
Re: 2016 Election
Point of information:
While you can have a southern accent (presumably in this case from the southern US) you cannot have an accent with a colour, since there are Black people from all areas of the country with the appropriate regional accents. Equally, you cannot have a "Hispanic" accent since that term encompasses people from a large number of different countries and/or from many areas of this country, al of which have different accents.
As you were.
While you can have a southern accent (presumably in this case from the southern US) you cannot have an accent with a colour, since there are Black people from all areas of the country with the appropriate regional accents. Equally, you cannot have a "Hispanic" accent since that term encompasses people from a large number of different countries and/or from many areas of this country, al of which have different accents.
As you were.
#3903
Re: 2016 Election
Indeed, having Florida as his home state is much more important than trying to appeal to the various Latino and Hispanic groups (they are not a single voting bloc).
#3904
Re: 2016 Election
Are you referring to her endorsement by former San Antonio mayor Julian Castro in mid-October? The fact that HC gamely tried a few words of Spanish for the mostly-Hispanic crowd was not nearly so important to them as were her ideas (conveyed in English) on immigration reform, and how they differ from those ideas of Trump, Cruz, Rubio, et al.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/us...s-backing.html
As for HC's supposed southern and black (?) accents, I'd love to know where you've heard these...
#3905
Re: 2016 Election
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Are you referring to her endorsement by former San Antonio mayor Julian Castro in mid-October? The fact that HC gamely tried a few words of Spanish for the mostly-Hispanic crowd was not nearly so important to them as were her ideas (conveyed in English) on immigration reform, and how they differ from those ideas of Trump, Cruz, Rubio, et al.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/us...s-backing.html
As for HC's supposed southern and black (?) accents, I'd love to know where you've heard these...
Are you referring to her endorsement by former San Antonio mayor Julian Castro in mid-October? The fact that HC gamely tried a few words of Spanish for the mostly-Hispanic crowd was not nearly so important to them as were her ideas (conveyed in English) on immigration reform, and how they differ from those ideas of Trump, Cruz, Rubio, et al.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/us...s-backing.html
As for HC's supposed southern and black (?) accents, I'd love to know where you've heard these...
Clinton and the young Hispanic, Julian Castro, former mayor of San Antonio and HUD Secretary. That gives balance to the ticket - Old White Woman with a huge boatload of baggage, from DC and NY via Arkansas and Illinois and rising young heartthrob Latino from Texas. You heard it here first.
Last edited by FlaviusAetius; Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:35 am.
#3906
Re: 2016 Election
Hillary lived in Arkansas for many years, and is married to an Arkansan. This forum abounds in folks who will tell you how their accents have unconsciously adapted to their surroundings and the prevailing modes of local speech.
#3907
Bloody Yank
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: USA! USA!
Posts: 4,186
Re: 2016 Election
Immigration is a key issue for non-Cuban Latinos, an issue that is less important to Cubans who benefit from favorable treatment. And the vast majority of Latinos in the US are of Mexican descent; relatively few are Cuban. They may seem similar to outsiders, but the Cuban and predominately Mexican Latino communities don't have much cultural affinity for one another.
The GOP fires on all of the wrong cylinders to win over a voting bloc that wants lenient immigration laws, for obvious reasons. Republicans like to talk about the importance of the Latino vote, then go out of their way to alienate them for the sake of the white populist vote.
The GOP fires on all of the wrong cylinders to win over a voting bloc that wants lenient immigration laws, for obvious reasons. Republicans like to talk about the importance of the Latino vote, then go out of their way to alienate them for the sake of the white populist vote.
#3908
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Joined: Dec 2015
Location: california
Posts: 6,035
Re: 2016 Election
Cruz is riding on a wave of mid west Evangelical support but Evangelicals don't mean snot in California or New York. His Hispanic name wont do him any good either in getting the vote of that group. Cruz represents everything that is contrary to the hopes of the rising Hispanic middle class.
If you don't win California and New York you don't win the election
As for Bernie, who wants someone who intends to raise taxes to pay for his ambitious social programs? Not I. I pay too much tax already
That leaves the unlovable Hillary. What a rotten choice it may turn out to be. I think I'll skip voting for either of them and just vote on our State Ballot Propositions only.
If you don't win California and New York you don't win the election
As for Bernie, who wants someone who intends to raise taxes to pay for his ambitious social programs? Not I. I pay too much tax already
That leaves the unlovable Hillary. What a rotten choice it may turn out to be. I think I'll skip voting for either of them and just vote on our State Ballot Propositions only.
Last edited by dc koop; Feb 2nd 2016 at 8:43 am.
#3909
Re: 2016 Election
This sums up the GOP caucus very well...
Trump beaten by man who really believes all the horrible things he says
Trump beaten by man who really believes all the horrible things he says
#3911
Re: 2016 Election
Immigration is a key issue for non-Cuban Latinos, an issue that is less important to Cubans who benefit from favorable treatment. And the vast majority of Latinos in the US are of Mexican descent; relatively few are Cuban. They may seem similar to outsiders, but the Cuban and predominately Mexican Latino communities don't have much cultural affinity for one another.
The GOP fires on all of the wrong cylinders to win over a voting bloc that wants lenient immigration laws, for obvious reasons. Republicans like to talk about the importance of the Latino vote, then go out of their way to alienate them for the sake of the white populist vote.
The GOP fires on all of the wrong cylinders to win over a voting bloc that wants lenient immigration laws, for obvious reasons. Republicans like to talk about the importance of the Latino vote, then go out of their way to alienate them for the sake of the white populist vote.
I can also state that immigration is not at the top of the list of issues amongst those with whom I am familiar. For example, a lot of them send their kids to Catholic school, which many of them can ill afford, rather than use the public schools. They are anxious to get and keep jobs, and massive new waves of people from Central America are competing with them for those jobs.
The ones I am familiar with are hardworking and honest, straightforward people who are trying to provide a better life for their kids. What I have seen over the years is that parents who speak no English bring their kids to translate. By the third generation, the kids know almost no Spanish unless they take it in school. I believe they are becoming assimilated perhaps as rapidly as the Italians who came here in a wave in the early 20th century.
Last edited by FlaviusAetius; Feb 2nd 2016 at 9:59 am.
#3913
Re: 2016 Election
Good to know you got a laugh at that smarmyface's expense.
We don't know. Nobody knows what the hell is going on once you get to this stage of the election.
We don't know. Nobody knows what the hell is going on once you get to this stage of the election.