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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 11768721)
Is this intended as some sort of insult, because if it is I'd like some context so I can make sure I'm understanding it properly.
Oh right, Daily Kos, Kossak got it. I don't read it so, whatever. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
(Post 11768708)
I guess that was the last word on the subject. Have fun Kossaks! No point in any centre-right folks wasting another minute on this thread.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
(Post 11768697)
Assuming that to be true...to make this thread even the tiniest bit interesting and not just a pale echo of Move-on.org or The Daily Kos, do any of you see any faults or weaknesses in Hillary, Bernie, Diamond Joe, O'Malley, Webb, Chafee? Anything?
Clinton is not especially likeable, always too stiff and rehearsed. Sanders won't scale back his opinions to make himself more electable. No one else gets any national media coverage. None of them have yet to come up with anything as fatally dumb as the top runners of the GOP nominees yet, even gaffe-machine Biden. Last time, all of the Republican primary contenders spent a time at the top. Would be nice to see it rotate like that this time so we can see what some of the quieter ones say. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Anian
(Post 11768734)
None of them have yet to come up with anything as fatally dumb as the top runners of the GOP nominees yet, even gaffe-machine Biden. |
Re: 2016 Election
OK, I've got one!
Bernie Sanders stated, "I've known Hillary Clinton for twenty five years. I like her. I respect her. I disagree with her on a number of issues." Hmm.. A bit boring and civil, sorry:unsure: |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 11768724)
Conservatives regard Kossacks as among the leading proponents of "leftist fascism," characterized by bullying, dirty tricks, illogical discussions, and an irrational hatred of everything to the right of Noam Chomsky.
Urban Dictionary: Kossack |
Re: 2016 Election
So then it's the first Democratic debate tomorrow. What's everyone looking out for?
Basically it seems that Bernie has to do well here to improve his chances. If he can get a bump in the polls similar to Fiorina did, then it definitely makes things more interesting going forward. I think so long as he keeps doing what he's been doing, by being honest and talking about what he sees as the problems and how he will fix it, then he stands a good chance. My worry is that he will try and pivot to income inequality on every issue, and that will make him sound like a broken record. As for Hilary, well, I suppose she could try and be honest, but she probably doesn't remember the last time she told the truth, so she'll just stick to the focus group tested soundbites and a certain section will lap that up. No word from Diamond Joe, so I doubt he'll be there. As for the others, they have nothing to lose, so any exposure is good for them, maybe it might improve their poll numbers, maybe not. |
Re: 2016 Election
Wait, did Chris Christie just say he wants to shoot down Russian planes over Syria? What could possibly go wrong there...
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Re: 2016 Election
Obviously this thread has mainly been about slagging off the contenders.
Is there anybody standing or likely to stand that anybody would actually feel good about? Say enough to go knock on some doors. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11770351)
So then it's the first Democratic debate tomorrow. What's everyone looking out for?
Basically it seems that Bernie has to do well here to improve his chances. If he can get a bump in the polls similar to Fiorina did, then it definitely makes things more interesting going forward. I think so long as he keeps doing what he's been doing, by being honest and talking about what he sees as the problems and how he will fix it, then he stands a good chance. My worry is that he will try and pivot to income inequality on every issue, and that will make him sound like a broken record. As for Hilary, well, I suppose she could try and be honest, but she probably doesn't remember the last time she told the truth, so she'll just stick to the focus group tested soundbites and a certain section will lap that up. No word from Diamond Joe, so I doubt he'll be there. As for the others, they have nothing to lose, so any exposure is good for them, maybe it might improve their poll numbers, maybe not. Apart from Clinton/Sanders, everyone else is a no-hoper. It's a shame that Joe won't be there to shake things up. Even if he does decide to run, it doesn't bode well for him that he was in two minds about running for so long. :( I expect they will debate gun control which will pit Hillary against Bernie head to head. Email servers etc., and Benghazhi dead certs. I wonder if CNN will put the fire to their feet and find out what presidential 'code names' they will choose if they win. :zzz: |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11770539)
Obviously this thread has mainly been about slagging off the contenders.
Is there anybody standing or likely to stand that anybody would actually feel good about? Say enough to go knock on some doors. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 11770545)
What's your opinion?
Some I really dislike, maybe to the extent of being able to be persuaded to campaign against them if the opponent was not too bad. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11770539)
Obviously this thread has mainly been about slagging off the contenders.
Is there anybody standing or likely to stand that anybody would actually feel good about? Say enough to go knock on some doors. |
Re: 2016 Election
This whole election stuff is too drawn out. Need to make it a law no campaigning and no announcements until January 1 of the year of the election.
A few other things would need to be adjusted obviously, but this long drawn out process is just crazy. I also think there needs to be a standard nationwide primary election date, so all states vote on the same day. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 11770641)
This whole election stuff is too drawn out. Need to make it a law no campaigning and no announcements until January 1 of the year of the election.
A few other things would need to be adjusted obviously, but this long drawn out process is just crazy. I also think there needs to be a standard nationwide primary election date, so all states vote on the same day. As for having the primaries on the same day, great idea, but this is the only time Iowa and New Hampshire ever get to feel important. |
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