Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Yes I think thats the case Just reqister with a DR:lol:
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
It's a great institution, the NHS, but I do wonder if it is ultimately sustainable. Mention has been made of foreigners accessing the NHS without having paid into the system. But any British child gets free health care, and they haven't paid a penny yet. Also, I suspect more than a few expats (not just from Spain...) are thinking of heading back to the UK when age issues arise. Ok, some of them have paid a good 30-40 years into the system already, but many may not - they may have been working abroad or running their own business. Just the possession of a UK passport will get them free treatment. I know some relatives who came back from south Africa to the UK when the violent street crime started there - ok a couple of them were of working age and able to contribute, but others were already retired. At what point do you start charging?
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
The health service in Spain guarentees healthcare for every resident.
You only have to pay if you are under pensionable age and are not paying social security payments. If this is the case and you are too poor to contribute to the healthcare system than you can say you are destitute (you will need to prove it) so you can claim free healthcare. The only difference between this one and the NHS is that in Spain you must carry a card that proves you are contributing to the system or are too poor to do so. |
Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by scampicat
(Post 9062786)
As for the Westminster fraudsters...I personally don't think that their wrongdoings are any justification for anyone else to commit a wrongdoing!
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by DENISE WALTERS
(Post 9062884)
I have been back and fore both countries although utilities are cheaper I have noticed them creeping up Electric for eg
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/9140...no/subida/luz/ |
Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Unit for unit electricity has been more expensive in Spain over the last few years.
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9063255)
but whether you’re cheating the system in Bradford or the Costa del Sol, what’s the difference?
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
I wonder how much a care home place costs in Spain?
The Times had an article yesterday on the increasing costs in the UK - it's a massive timebomb waiting to blow up, as the population ages... Apparently it costs £824 a week to keep a resident in a council-run care home. It costs £445 per week to send a resident to a private care home... No wonder they try and force people to sell their homes if they go into care. Those figures quickly run up into many 1000s. No way they can pay for that from our council tax or income tax.:frown: |
Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 9063455)
I'm wondering though why some people get so worked up about benefit fraud, yet seem to be at peace with the fact that so many Brits come over here and defraud the Spanish government out of funds by not registering their presence here, not making tax returns, keeping cars on Uk plates untaxed etc, and then of course are quite happy to go back to the UK to take advantage of the NHS even when they are not entitled to it any more :);)
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by whitelinen
(Post 9063497)
Having made several trips to A&E and other NHS hospital departments this year with a family member I have never seen anyone being asked to produce proof that they were entitled to healthcare and were treated.
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by whitelinen
(Post 9063497)
Having made several trips to A&E and other NHS hospital departments this year with a family member I have never seen anyone being asked to produce proof that they were entitled to healthcare and were treated.
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Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
(Post 9063887)
Apparently one of the problems is that the NHS staff do not like to challenge anyone because it makes them uncomfortable in case they are considered rascist!Jim
When taking someone to reception we were handed a form to complete when I asked why didnt they ask the questions and complete the form I was told they were not allowed to, they were also not allowed to comment on the form when the patient lied as to skin colour and ethnicity. I was told that most Chinese people would registered as white english as did many other non-europeans in fact when we were there I actually witnessed this happening several times. |
Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 9063489)
How do you mean BJ? You move to France for instance and you have to pay a top up for health care iirc.
Are you under the impression that ANYONE who trys to get to the UK is immediately entitled to full NHS cover? Jim |
Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
My wife works in the local hospital in Sheffield and tells me that the NHS has to supply translators for the non english speakers when they come in for their appointments.
As we are still learning the language, does this facility also exist in Spain if we encounter a problem? |
Re: Are you a benefit fraud.. and living in Spain?
Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
(Post 9063352)
It is calculated that only 1 per cent of claimants are scamming and for the Government to recover the lost money will cost them a lot more than they are losing.
Jim Think about it..people spotting benefit fraud creates jobs, people in jobs pay taxes and lowers unemployment. If you are entitled to it claim it, if you are not don't..that goes for all. What goes around comes around eventually. |
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