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minouette Aug 25th 2013 8:52 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by rspltd (Post 10869574)
it didn't have to work because they're not!! Prince Philip was born Prince of Greece and Denmark and the Queen was born to a Scottish mother and an English father.

Does Saxe-Coburg Gotha mean anything to you?

Lynn R Aug 25th 2013 8:58 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by minouette (Post 10869601)
Does Saxe-Coburg Gotha mean anything to you?

Go on, let's be kind and help him out a bit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten-Windsor

jackytoo Aug 25th 2013 8:59 pm

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It is mainly the Roma who come into the UK. not the middle class educated. Even Romania doesn't want the Roma and have put them in ghettos. No wonder they want to get to the UK. the are living in terrible conditions.

How did a Romanian get out of the country 28 years ago? just asking:)

minouette Aug 25th 2013 9:18 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10869611)
It is mainly the Roma who come into the UK. not the middle class educated. Even Romania doesn't want the Roma and have put them in ghettos. No wonder they want to get to the UK. the are living in terrible conditions.

How did a Romanian get out of the country 28 years ago? just asking:)

She got out legally, by emigrating. Now you will ask where, but you should be able to work it out.
As for the Roma, my own experience is somehow different, but it's true it's been some time: yes, there was prejudice, but just in the way even today some people are racist. Legally there was equality which in real life translated in Roma teachers, doctors, lawyers, TV entertainers, etc. In other words, who really wanted to lead a normal life, could do so.
Don't forget the Roma are travellers and in my days they were using carts and horses: didn't look good in Ceausescu's new era, did it? There was also the problem of where to settle, I suppose: the land was all own by the state, so where could they go? I remember stories of gipsies being housed in new apartment blocks, in which they brought all their belongings, including horses. And all set by the fire in the middle of the room.
But things have changed, haven't they? I'm not sure about ghettos, but like everybody else I saw the pictures of the palaces they built back home with the earnings from ... the overseas business :)

HBG Aug 25th 2013 9:59 pm

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The old prejudices are not just between different countries, but within countries too. Cockneys are not generally welcomed in Liverpool, and broad Scousers are less likely to get a job in the City; only a foolish Englishman would bang on about his country in Glasgow on a Saturday night; and if you move to Cornwall the locals will hate you even if you just come from across the border in Devon.

If you travel around, and unless you want to spend the rest of your life fighting, you adjust to your surroundings, you blend in as best you can.

We were supposed to be moving towards a global village, with computers and all that - you can easily chat to a local in Baghdad on Skype, but if you make an innocent joke about Mohammed, they will come after you and cut your head off.

The global village is a myth, our world is becoming more like global fortresses, at war with each other.

Chiclanagir Aug 25th 2013 10:25 pm

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The thread is about Would You go back to the UK? It seems to have diverted quite a bit now, especially in to an anti Romanian lashback.

HBG Aug 26th 2013 2:56 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
For those of us who have, or are about to return to the UK, especially after some considerable time abroad, should carefully pack all those things that we treasure.

I my book, the most important thing to pack to take back home with us is our sense of humour.

Domino Aug 26th 2013 11:27 am

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10870228)
For those of us who have, or are about to return to the UK, especially after some considerable time abroad, should carefully pack all those things that we treasure.

I my book, the most important thing to pack to take back home with us is our sense of humour.

because for many months so many people will be asking when you are going back :ohmy:

used to annoy me when I had been at sea or on a foreign posting for a year or two, get home and all people wanted to know was when I was going back
:frown:

IamStu Aug 26th 2013 11:28 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10871036)
because for many months so many people will be asking when you are going back :ohmy:

used to annoy me when I had been at sea or on a foreign posting for a year or two, get home and all people wanted to know was when I was going back
:frown:

...so what does that tell you Domino? :unsure:

Domino Aug 26th 2013 5:58 pm

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Originally Posted by IamStu (Post 10871039)
...so what does that tell you Domino? :unsure:

not wanted ?
written off ?
not part of their lives ?
irrelevant to the world ?

or perhaps it is their way of hiding their jealousy that you have something they don't, a way of life they don't have the guts to reach out for ?

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Porth Aug 26th 2013 6:16 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10870228)
For those of us who have, or are about to return to the UK, especially after some considerable time abroad, should carefully pack all those things that we treasure.

I my book, the most important thing to pack to take back home with us is our sense of humour.

Here I disagree it is memories. The most memorable meal near the Pont du Gard in France under the stars with melon and a delightful lamb dish.

Then my wife driving home from a Blues night in France and mistaking the Pont du Gard for a road.

Here in Spain our family get together this August both for my wife's birthday and our anniversary. Then a Sunday lunch at Masena. The Cantina in the Port Area of Javea and Guadalest? (spelling)

The less busy times and when July and August was let us say difficult.

The friendship and kindness both in France and Spain.

So we go back to France an subsequently to the UK with a bunker load of memories many superb some further down the scale but taken in the whole a wonderful experience. But now is the time to go back to a Victorian presbytery in the country do some 'proper' gardening watch my beloved Glamorgan and Worcester CCC. And get my wife to pick me up after my snooze in the afternoon and watching cricket and take me home to my lovely animals and of course my wife! Oh I forgot a good pint of English ale at the Carpenters in Shirenewton near Chepstow.


best wishes

HBG Aug 26th 2013 7:14 pm

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Memories, magical treasures to take back.

One from Pampellone nudist beach at St Tropez, eating an apple when an elderly French lady strolled by and bent down to pick up a shell from the soft sand. The apple joined the shells in the sand.

Getting lost in the Medina in Tangier and watching two Moroccan men reveal what they carried under their long brown dresses. They had a sword fight.

Watching Elizabeth Taylor's yacht when it was moored at Benalmadena with the lady onboard.

Walking from Albir to Benidorm, along the mountain tops.

Listening to the wind whistling through the pine trees at Balcon al Mar, Javea. Climbing the Montgo mountain in Denia, the hard way.

Walking the eight beaches from La Mata to Playa Flamenca in the winter, on the same day.

Etc etc etc.

Porth Aug 26th 2013 8:45 pm

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Down South in France buying olive oil from a mill in the deepest countryside. The elderly lady had no change so kindly wrapped up some fresh eggs in newspapers as change!

Then in St Cyprien in the Dordogne on Market day when an elderly lady approached a gentleman selling eggs and ceps. She addressed him jeune homme.

He then went under his stall and gave the lady the really fresh eggs and some of the most magnificent ceps I have ever seen.

The the lady near to St Malo whose husband went out every night in his 10m boat and then brought back the freshest Dover Soles ever.

In Javea Park someone who did not recognise pedestrian crossings.

Piri Piri in the port and the views.

The views from the lighthouse in Javea Port.

Today when one is able to park and stroll around and it seems that Javea is becalmed.

deepaul Aug 26th 2013 9:58 pm

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Before you come back to good old england for good just come for a few weeks things have changed over here now surley it must be better over in spain

Porth Aug 26th 2013 10:40 pm

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Originally Posted by deepaul (Post 10871675)
Before you come back to good old england for good just come for a few weeks things have changed over here now surley it must be better over in spain

I am not comparing Javea where I live with the UK. I am comparing Javea with France and where I lived for 18 years.


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