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Dick Dasterdly Aug 18th 2013 4:21 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by stuboy (Post 10856499)
I doubt it very much jennie, There are very few similarities between British and Spanish ex-pats.

Maybe so, but it's surprising how many Spanish who came to the UK looking for work only, have taken a shine to it and quite enjoy the lifestyle.
I imagine they appreciate positive aspects of the UK that we don't notice or else normally take for granted.

johnnyone Aug 18th 2013 4:33 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10856846)
Maybe so, but it's surprising how many Spanish who came to the UK looking for work only, have taken a shine to it and quite enjoy the lifestyle.
I imagine they appreciate positive aspects of the UK that we don't notice or else normally take for granted.

We were out for dinner in Clerkenwell last night. Had a lovely Spanish waitress and long chat with her. She loved London describing it as mad, but in a great way.
I don't think she was going back any time soon.

I don't know why these threads always turn into UK/Spain contest. I am off to Spain next week and shall enjoy myself just as much there as I do here.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 18th 2013 5:04 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 10856859)
We were out for dinner in Clerkenwell last night. Had a lovely Spanish waitress and long chat with her. She loved London describing it as mad, but in a great way.
I don't think she was going back any time soon.

I don't know why these threads always turn into UK/Spain contest. I am off to Spain next week and shall enjoy myself just as much there as I do here.

Likewise, I equally enjoy the positive aspects of both countries.

I know a Spanish lady living close to my Valencian home who lived and worked for more than a year in a Bournemouth hotel.
She enjoyed everything about the UK lifestyle and people, often talks about going back, but unfortunately is unable to do so at present due to family commitments.

Gizmo_man60 Aug 18th 2013 5:28 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10820909)
It would break my heart to have to go back after 24 years in this beautiful country, but Hacienda may force my exit. I can't fight them, they hate people like me; foreigners of independent means who pay their taxes back home.

Why pay taxes to the UK?
Would it not be of more benefit to pay tax in Spain. This is a problem that we are not quite sure of the best thing to do, pay tax in UK or Spain. :confused:

Gizmo_man60 Aug 18th 2013 5:32 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
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jackytoo Aug 18th 2013 5:35 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
It's not a case of the best thing to do. If you live in Spain then you pay Spanish taxes. Believe me there is no benefit to paying taxes in Spain, you will pay more. Unless you have Civil service pensions which seem to be untaxed:confused:

agoreira Aug 18th 2013 6:06 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10856914)
Likewise, I equally enjoy the positive aspects of both countries.

I know a Spanish lady living close to my Valencian home who lived and worked for more than a year in a Bournemouth hotel.
She enjoyed everything about the UK lifestyle and people, often talks about going back, but unfortunately is unable to do so at present due to family commitments.

Same here, we were in Spain a few weeks ago and we'll be doing the same again in a few weeks time. We will be staying in a property owned by Spanish friends, the same as we always do when we visit that area. Here, I know of only about four or five Spanish people, all married or living with Brits. They all have good jobs, two teachers, architect, trainee midwife and one that has her own delicatessen/restaurant business. None show any signs of wanting to return to Spain, as one said, "why would I want to go back to no job, I earn great money here." For the first time since I've known her, she's not gone back to Spain for her August holidays, she's opted for Portugal.

bxpuser24710519 Aug 18th 2013 6:11 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
Civil Service pensions are taxed at source.

megmet Aug 18th 2013 10:07 am

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10856962)
Unless you have Civil service pensions which seem to be untaxed:confused:

Yes that's right, Civil Service and Local Government pensions are always taxable in the UK.
I have a local Govenment pension which is below my allowence in the UK, my state pension is taxable here in Spain and as it's a little over my allowence here I do pay tax on it....but not much. :thumbup:

Porth Aug 18th 2013 6:24 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Gizmo_man60 (Post 10856947)
Why pay taxes to the UK?
Would it not be of more benefit to pay tax in Spain. This is a problem that we are not quite sure of the best thing to do, pay tax in UK or Spain. :confused:

In my earlier response I did indeed forget the tax situation. Whilst we return to the UK and that for a number of reasons our tax situation was examined here in Spain and against the French regime. We are going to get hit in the UK but it is a fact (only for us) that if we had decided to stay in France we would be substantially better off. But other reasons are behind our move 'home'

So perhaps the OP should also take into account fiscal matters before moving to Spain?

Porth Aug 18th 2013 6:26 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
As to taxes Gizmo has of course overlooked one issue. Those of our fellow UK citizens who benefit from 'public' pensions such as Police civil servants and the like have no choice. Tax is deducted at source in the UK. That Gizmo is the answer to your question.

agoreira Aug 18th 2013 10:49 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10854961)
If one happens to read the Malaga newspapers there is at least one family feud each month which has ended in a stabbing. Recently in the nationals there was one who killed his Mother and another killed his Brother...best not to read Spanish eh:lol:

Just been reading of an eighty year old Spanish bloke that killed his wife then himself. Machismo? No, just at the end of his tether, both ill, he couldn't look after her, he couldn't cope any more. The article goes on to explain how the frail, the elderly are left very much on their own, it's a "private matter" "almost embarrasing" nothing to do with the state. This is one case, but it says this is happening with "disturbing regularity". I'm sure there'll be those that will dismiss this and tell us how all the ancianos all live a great life where they are.
http://blogs.20minutos.es/tu-blog/20...de-impotencia/

cricketman Aug 18th 2013 10:58 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10857901)
Just been reading of an eighty year old Spanish bloke that killed his wife then himself. Machismo? No, just at the end of his tether, both ill, he couldn't look after her, he couldn't cope any more. The article goes on to explain how the frail, the elderly are left very much on their own, it's a "private matter" "almost embarrasing" nothing to do with the state. This is one case, but it says this is happening with "disturbing regularity". I'm sure there'll be those that will dismiss this and tell us how all the ancianos all live a great life where they are.
http://blogs.20minutos.es/tu-blog/20...de-impotencia/

Looking after your parents or grandparents, as suggested by the blog, is seen as a private matter in Spain. The state keep well out of it

Obviously the vast majority of elderly people are looked after well by their families, but some will have fallen out with them many years ago, or maybe have no family at all

It is amazing that taxes are pretty high in Spain yet there is no state elderly care, no housing benefits, limited unemployment benefits etc.

jimenato Aug 18th 2013 11:10 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10857917)
Looking after your parents or grandparents, as suggested by the blog, is seen as a private matter in Spain. The state keep well out of it

Obviously the vast majority of elderly people are looked after well by their families, but some will have fallen out with them many years ago, or maybe have no family at all

It is amazing that taxes are pretty high in Spain yet there is no state elderly care, no housing benefits, limited unemployment benefits etc.

Hmm... wonder why that is? Where on earth do those high taxes end up?

EMR Aug 18th 2013 11:23 pm

Re: Would you go back to the UK ?
 
Spain has to reduce the amount of government borrowing on the international markets.
Raising the tax revenue helps to reduce the amount borrowed and the rate of interest Spain pays
Along with cuts in public services it goes to pay the interest on Spains debts.
This applies to Spain, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus and even the UK.


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