when you go back
Sep 13th 2008 | 4:11 am
#16
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From: Stirlingshire/Hondon De Las Nieves
Re: when you go back
well I'm not at that stage yet as I'm still waiting to move over when the house is sold, however, Spain will need to be a REALLY crap country to live in for me given in the last 6 weeks we have had no more than FIVE days without rain. No summer at all here.
Although weather isn't everything, looking at rain every day as soon as you get out of bed depresses the hell out of you!
Although weather isn't everything, looking at rain every day as soon as you get out of bed depresses the hell out of you!
Sep 13th 2008 | 11:37 am
#19
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Re: when you go back
people tend to think that moving here will be the answer to all their problems,for f sake why would that be,its simple,if the uk had spains weather,no expats would be here
corrupt place that will not solve your problems and you will probanly return with a lot less than u came with in this day and age
me i live going back to north devon and would have stayed had the weather been better to allow me to work in the pub business 12 months of the year busy
corrupt place that will not solve your problems and you will probanly return with a lot less than u came with in this day and age
me i live going back to north devon and would have stayed had the weather been better to allow me to work in the pub business 12 months of the year busy
Sep 13th 2008 | 1:56 pm
#20
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From: West Midlands, ex Granada province
Re: when you go back
Agree with sensational frog, i don't understand expats who hate their country of birth, Spain is far from perfect too. There may be things you like better about Spain, but it isn't a cure-all panacea.
(And I actually don't even like the weather all that much where I am - it's either too hot or too cold for much of the year. Although the days are pleasant now and in the spring and it is nice to see a blue sky, even in winter. But my city in the UK has a more even temperature).
(And I actually don't even like the weather all that much where I am - it's either too hot or too cold for much of the year. Although the days are pleasant now and in the spring and it is nice to see a blue sky, even in winter. But my city in the UK has a more even temperature).
Sep 13th 2008 | 2:00 pm
#21
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From: West Midlands, ex Granada province
Re: when you go back
I enjoy it
I do find it very expensive, and the weather is depressing as lately its always raining.
But I love the countryside, I like the bustle of Birmingham where I lived most of my life and its lovely to fit in seeing so many friends and family in a short time period
I do find it very expensive, and the weather is depressing as lately its always raining.
But I love the countryside, I like the bustle of Birmingham where I lived most of my life and its lovely to fit in seeing so many friends and family in a short time period
We went to New Quay in Wales for a few when we were in the UK in June and July and the scenery was stunning.
Sep 13th 2008 | 9:50 pm
#23
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From: On the edge
Re: when you go back
Devon & Cornwall are some of my favourite places in the UK. Spent a few happy motorhome holidays at a site just outside Morthoe - always enjoy going to Devon
Sep 14th 2008 | 8:53 am
#27
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Re: when you go back
well you have got me started.already I am humming the song.I was born under a wandering star.I think its nearly time to move on.
Sep 14th 2008 | 12:47 pm
#28
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Re: when you go back
I will answer some things that I have read here...
I see that there are a lot of people that live isolated. I believe that the solitude doesn't have nationality, and to live isolated, we not only have to have chosen to live isolated, also, it is necessary to have the habit of adapting to the solitude. Because as everything in this life, everything is habit question. The difference is that if I choose to live in solitude in my country I have it more easier than a foreigner in my country that has chosen to live in solitude and that also, doesn't know spanish...Why? Because I can understand if I listen the television or the radio. If I am English, French or German and I don't know Spanish, I won't understand anything of what I listen
Why it is necessary to learn the language? Because the perception changes positively that when one doesn't know the language, living in an isolated place or in a population. The difference is that an isolated place doesn't give for a lot, because it doesn't stimulate to the conversation because there are not people or there are few people with what to speak
Evidently, each one is of where it is, although a person lives in a foreign country, always have in their heart to their origin country. But what I seek to say with this message, is that the perception of your welcome country (in this case, Spain) it is more favorable when you can maintain a conversation with total fluency with a native one. It is a more optimistic situation. And if you also have native friends, better. But it is already an achievement to learn the language, because socially you don't perceive solitude and you know the place and people better. You already have a more optimistic vision
Also we can enter in other factors, as the economic ones, etc but this is another topic
I see that there are a lot of people that live isolated. I believe that the solitude doesn't have nationality, and to live isolated, we not only have to have chosen to live isolated, also, it is necessary to have the habit of adapting to the solitude. Because as everything in this life, everything is habit question. The difference is that if I choose to live in solitude in my country I have it more easier than a foreigner in my country that has chosen to live in solitude and that also, doesn't know spanish...Why? Because I can understand if I listen the television or the radio. If I am English, French or German and I don't know Spanish, I won't understand anything of what I listen
Why it is necessary to learn the language? Because the perception changes positively that when one doesn't know the language, living in an isolated place or in a population. The difference is that an isolated place doesn't give for a lot, because it doesn't stimulate to the conversation because there are not people or there are few people with what to speak
Evidently, each one is of where it is, although a person lives in a foreign country, always have in their heart to their origin country. But what I seek to say with this message, is that the perception of your welcome country (in this case, Spain) it is more favorable when you can maintain a conversation with total fluency with a native one. It is a more optimistic situation. And if you also have native friends, better. But it is already an achievement to learn the language, because socially you don't perceive solitude and you know the place and people better. You already have a more optimistic vision
Also we can enter in other factors, as the economic ones, etc but this is another topic
Last edited by Relampago; Sep 14th 2008 at 12:51 pm.
Sep 14th 2008 | 9:09 pm
#29
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From: Velez-Malaga
Re: when you go back
When I last went back to the UK for a few days (at the end of June this year) I stayed in a hotel in central Manchester. I had worked in the city centre for 30 years and never thought it was particularly intimidating before, but this time I was really shocked by the number of dodgy looking people on the streets, in broad daylight never mind at night, and I honestly didn't feel safe walking about alone.
I know large cities in Spain may well be the same, but I never feel like that when I go to Malaga, am going to Madrid for a few days at the end of this month so that might be different. I don't live in a small village in Spain, but a large almost wholly Spanish town (ie not a holiday resort or a place with a large expat population) and I never encounter people on the streets who make me feel like that.
Also I didn't enjoy having to wear jeans and a fleece at that time of year, the skies, the buildings and the people all look the same shade of grey!
I like to go back a couple of times a year to see my family and stock up on a few things in the shops, but a weekend is quite long enough and I would not want to go back to live.
I know large cities in Spain may well be the same, but I never feel like that when I go to Malaga, am going to Madrid for a few days at the end of this month so that might be different. I don't live in a small village in Spain, but a large almost wholly Spanish town (ie not a holiday resort or a place with a large expat population) and I never encounter people on the streets who make me feel like that.
Also I didn't enjoy having to wear jeans and a fleece at that time of year, the skies, the buildings and the people all look the same shade of grey!
I like to go back a couple of times a year to see my family and stock up on a few things in the shops, but a weekend is quite long enough and I would not want to go back to live.
Sep 14th 2008 | 9:40 pm
#30
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From: Mijas, Spain.
Re: when you go back
I will answer some things that I have read here...
I see that there are a lot of people that live isolated. I believe that the solitude doesn't have nationality, and to live isolated, we not only have to have chosen to live isolated, also, it is necessary to have the habit of adapting to the solitude. Because as everything in this life, everything is habit question. The difference is that if I choose to live in solitude in my country I have it more easier than a foreigner in my country that has chosen to live in solitude and that also, doesn't know spanish...Why? Because I can understand if I listen the television or the radio. If I am English, French or German and I don't know Spanish, I won't understand anything of what I listen
Why it is necessary to learn the language? Because the perception changes positively that when one doesn't know the language, living in an isolated place or in a population. The difference is that an isolated place doesn't give for a lot, because it doesn't stimulate to the conversation because there are not people or there are few people with what to speak
Evidently, each one is of where it is, although a person lives in a foreign country, always have in their heart to their origin country. But what I seek to say with this message, is that the perception of your welcome country (in this case, Spain) it is more favorable when you can maintain a conversation with total fluency with a native one. It is a more optimistic situation. And if you also have native friends, better. But it is already an achievement to learn the language, because socially you don't perceive solitude and you know the place and people better. You already have a more optimistic vision
Also we can enter in other factors, as the economic ones, etc but this is another topic
I see that there are a lot of people that live isolated. I believe that the solitude doesn't have nationality, and to live isolated, we not only have to have chosen to live isolated, also, it is necessary to have the habit of adapting to the solitude. Because as everything in this life, everything is habit question. The difference is that if I choose to live in solitude in my country I have it more easier than a foreigner in my country that has chosen to live in solitude and that also, doesn't know spanish...Why? Because I can understand if I listen the television or the radio. If I am English, French or German and I don't know Spanish, I won't understand anything of what I listen
Why it is necessary to learn the language? Because the perception changes positively that when one doesn't know the language, living in an isolated place or in a population. The difference is that an isolated place doesn't give for a lot, because it doesn't stimulate to the conversation because there are not people or there are few people with what to speak
Evidently, each one is of where it is, although a person lives in a foreign country, always have in their heart to their origin country. But what I seek to say with this message, is that the perception of your welcome country (in this case, Spain) it is more favorable when you can maintain a conversation with total fluency with a native one. It is a more optimistic situation. And if you also have native friends, better. But it is already an achievement to learn the language, because socially you don't perceive solitude and you know the place and people better. You already have a more optimistic vision
Also we can enter in other factors, as the economic ones, etc but this is another topic
