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Fredbargate Jul 25th 2012 6:24 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10193205)
You really can't go back to all those years ago, things like the Vichy government in France are an irrelevance in modern times.

'The Boers have got my daddy, my soldier dad'.

'Hitler has only got one ball, Himmler has got no balls at all'.

You can sit on your rocking chair somewhere and sing those songs, but you'll be without an audience, the world has moved on.

Sorry HBG but even if the world has moved on Spain has not.

A 300 year old treaty is dividing two EU countries.

HBG Jul 25th 2012 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10193619)
Sorry HBG but even if the world has moved on Spain has not.

A 300 year old treaty is dividing two EU countries.

That's the trouble with these old treaties, they made perfect sense when they were drawn up, but no longer make sense as the world moves on. Funny that Utrecht and Maastricht were both drawn up in the Netherlands.

Domino Jul 25th 2012 7:42 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by bob_bob (Post 10193489)
Whats a 'prominent specialist in immigration'? One of those lawyers who charges you to fill in forms you could do yourself lol Sadly coming from an ally of the US won't be of any help. The US/Canada/Australia/New Zealand now all demand you have a skill that can't be filled by a local person. For instance the US has a lot of general doctors so its not easy for a doctor to be accepted but, they are short of qualified general nurses so they find it easy to get it (comparatively).

You should be looking at areas of skill shortages and start training now otherwise unless you have getting on for a million dollars and qualify for a retirement visa they won't let you land.

Well spotted Bob
perhaps that is the opportunity we are looking for and should start our own business doing just that.

I considered certain skill training before I came here but in the end it wasnt worth it - unless you can speak the language like a native you would become a liability rather than an asset to an employer.

The UK's fluffy bunnies will fight tooth and nail to ensure the UK remains open to all and sundry - the last effort to impose skill based immigration was massively watered down.
This will come to all countries, despite the cosy arrangement of the EU - remember the German doctor working as a locum who killed a patient by over prescribing ??

agoreira Jul 25th 2012 7:44 pm

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But if nationalism raises its ugly head again, anything could happen, and they'll never forget Dresden.

I didn't think that under the terms of the surrender agreement that they weren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons which is a bit different from 'not wanting them'
They are about in ever increasing numbers, they certainly haven't gone away.
Germany's new breed of neo-Nazis pose a threat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17514394

Domino Jul 25th 2012 7:57 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10193205)
You really can't go back to all those years ago, things like the Vichy government in France are an irrelevance in modern times.

'The Boers have got my daddy, my soldier dad'.

'Hitler has only got one ball, Himmler has got no balls at all'.

You can sit on your rocking chair somewhere and sing those songs, but you'll be without an audience, the world has moved on.

sorry you can't find anything to agree with, but it doesn't go back to the late 1800's, only to the 1940's - a time when many of us here were being born or not very old.

regrettably certain things run through the centre of governments, lasting for decades as part of the large chess set sitting in their foreign office. (no foreign policy is short term). It is a game, long term, and although you fob off the Vichy, it is their descendants who are pulling the strings in the background. They are the old money as well as the new money, but all with the same beliefs. Same in Germany, where they have generally kept quiet, will not make any overt moves but will keep pulling the strings in the background. When West Germany revamped their telecom system they had the foresight to ensure that they included facilities, dial codes etc etc for East Germany, that was a decade before the wall came down. Long term planning is what it is all about.

OK, call it conspiracy theory, along with Diana, Kennedy, Aliens, etc etc but the start, expansion and future of Europe is not just written on a post-it on someone's monitor. The truth is out there.

by the way, how did you know I had a rocking chair on my patio ??

HBG Jul 25th 2012 9:02 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10193732)

by the way, how did you know I had a rocking chair on my patio ??

We all have.

jackytoo Jul 25th 2012 9:16 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by bob_bob (Post 10193489)
Whats a 'prominent specialist in immigration'? One of those lawyers who charges you to fill in forms you could do yourself lol Sadly coming from an ally of the US won't be of any help. The US/Canada/Australia/New Zealand now all demand you have a skill that can't be filled by a local person. For instance the US has a lot of general doctors so its not easy for a doctor to be accepted but, they are short of qualified general nurses so they find it easy to get it (comparatively).

.

AFAIK the visas for nursing jobs in the USA stopped a couple of years ago. About the only way now is to buy a business but there are lots of criteria and it doesn't lead to a green card and has to be renewed every 5 years. We looked into it and didn't want that uncertainty. Seems to be easy to get in if you are a Celeb:sneaky: I have been a member of a Florida forum for years and during that time quite a few have had their visas withdrawn.

jackytoo Jul 25th 2012 9:18 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10193852)
We all have.

Love it:rofl:

Domino Jul 25th 2012 9:37 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10193893)
Love it:rofl:

does yours creak like mine does ??

Rosemary Jul 25th 2012 9:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10193935)
does yours creak like mine does ??

Thats not the chair that is you!!!!!!

Rosemary

Domino Jul 25th 2012 9:42 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 10193936)
Thats not the chair that is you!!!!!!

Rosemary

got me there :thumbsup:

a creaking chair rocks the longest ??

Pocaloca Jul 25th 2012 10:00 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by bob_bob (Post 10193483)
If your involved and or interested in self sufficiency you must surely know about Rabbit starvation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation Its a poor survival meat. You should get a rifle and hunt Boar, you need fat in your diet as well as meat.

Well you learn something every day! Though we would probably get enough fat from eggs and goats' milk?

We don't eat a lot of meat but a bowl of stewed jabalí is always welcome. I'll send the boys out with the rifle!

Pocaloca Jul 25th 2012 10:10 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10192951)
Good God, someone who admits to talking rubbish on BE - is that a first ?
Although we are both too young to remember the UK Wartime Spirit, the country wasnt broke, busted, nothing on the shelves. They had things but prices were sky high and they were under the counter.

but let things deteriorate and then come back and tell me there isnt a dog-eat-dog attitude, its already there with people who want/must get to the top of heap no matter what. Even here on BE Spain.

Well I haven't been on here long enough to learn the unwritten rule, never admit you were wrong and if in doubt, insult someone else at random as a distraction!

Back to the topic though, I'm sure Spain could feed its population without importing food. The people who produce it will have to make sure it's shared out fairly. This could involve a selective cull of politicians and big businessmen (a good source of dietary fat ...???)

cricketman Jul 25th 2012 10:24 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10194006)
Well I haven't been on here long enough to learn the unwritten rule, never admit you were wrong and if in doubt, insult someone else at random as a distraction!

Back to the topic though, I'm sure Spain could feed its population without importing food. The people who produce it will have to make sure it's shared out fairly. This could involve a selective cull of politicians and big businessmen (a good source of dietary fat ...???)

Of course it could, Spain could feed the country twice over with what it exports. The question as you say, is whether this would be fairly distributed. The world already produces enough food to feed everyone, but still millions of people die of hunger every year

Everyone up here in Asturias has a family huerta back in their parents/grandparents villages. My parents in law were never hungry as children, although they didnt see a biscuit until they were a teenager :D And in fact didnt have electricity or piped water either.

Choice and the quantity of meat would go down, but people would eat well. The people who went hungry 60 years ago were in Andalucia and Extramudura, they have better agricultural systems now. The problems would be in the big cities. These people would have to go back to the villages

This is a question for JLFS. Given that Galicia has such fertile land, how come so many migrants to Latin American came from there?

bob_bob Jul 25th 2012 10:34 pm

Re: What would you do if ...
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10193581)
we're past the application forms, thanks.

...and by the way, being British does make a difference.

No, it doesn't, no skill, no entry these days, you've been misinformed.

My lad is a graduate, network engineer and could maybe, just maybe get out there if he had a firm contracted job offer. My daughter is a graduate Nurse and would have no problems...they need nurses more than network engineers; that said neither fancy the US although hopefully my daughter at least will be in Canada in a couple of years. Our daughter worked the Camp America season during her gap year and thats when she decided she did not want to live there, prefers Canada.

We enjoyed our time there, made good friends we are still in contact with (some are coming over for the Olympics and a euro touring holiday).


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