Well done Gordon
Jul 18th 2011, 10:13 am
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Re: Well done Gordon
the first indication of something wrong is they got Major's dates wrong in the heading - so how far can we trust the rest....
notwithstanding, how did we manage to have such large surpluses so soon after the war, when rationing didn't finish until around 1952. ?
however, taking the figures as they look then they would appear to be showing the story of the Kings New Clothes. The more we meddled with world events the greater the debt. Conversely we seemed to be better off fighting wars in places like Palestine, Suez, Korea et al.
as one who was abroad when Wilson devalued the £ in 1967 where the seems to be no blip and also abroad when we changed to Decimal in 1971 where we started to drift off -methinks these figures may not be telling us the whole story.
by the way - do they include all the Civil Service Pension and PFI deals that Blown kept "off the books" to the tune of about £1.75 TRILLION ? ?
Jul 18th 2011, 10:21 am
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Jul 18th 2011, 10:41 am
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Re: Well done Gordon
he isn't the only MP who has a touch of the "dark side"
Jul 18th 2011, 11:45 am
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Re: Well done Gordon
I loathe Brown, I believe he is a dysfunctional pill popping fraud. He is 3 fags short of a packet. Even his marriage is a sham.
However I am beginning to think he may have been doing the right things to pull UK out of recession. The economy was picking up until the condems took power and started to cut...and cut
However I am beginning to think he may have been doing the right things to pull UK out of recession. The economy was picking up until the condems took power and started to cut...and cut
However I have to concede that some cuts were inevitable, regardless of whoever took power. I just wish the govt could be more efficient at making the super-rich pay their due share of taxes (and yes I realise those that do, contribute an awful lot - I'd even be fine with reducing the top rate of tax - but there are a lot of companies and non-doms who get away with paying very little).
Jul 18th 2011, 11:48 am
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Re: Well done Gordon
by the way - do they include all the Civil Service Pension and PFI deals that Blown kept "off the books" to the tune of about £1.75 TRILLION ? ?
Jul 18th 2011, 2:30 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
I loathe Brown, I believe he is a dysfunctional pill popping fraud. He is 3 fags short of a packet. Even his marriage is a sham.
However I am beginning to think he may have been doing the right things to pull UK out of recession. The economy was picking up until the condems took power and started to cut...and cut
However I am beginning to think he may have been doing the right things to pull UK out of recession. The economy was picking up until the condems took power and started to cut...and cut
I laugh when people dislike Brown. Blair and Brown. King Stork and King Log, if you remember the fable.
Everyone hated Blair because he was spun and spun, and then we got GB who is possibly the least spun man on the planet. Remember him smiling? It's the sort of image you frighten children with.
Jul 18th 2011, 3:33 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
Could be, could be.
I laugh when people dislike Brown. Blair and Brown. King Stork and King Log, if you remember the fable.
Everyone hated Blair because he was spun and spun, and then we got GB who is possibly the least spun man on the planet. Remember him smiling? It's the sort of image you frighten children with.
I laugh when people dislike Brown. Blair and Brown. King Stork and King Log, if you remember the fable.
Everyone hated Blair because he was spun and spun, and then we got GB who is possibly the least spun man on the planet. Remember him smiling? It's the sort of image you frighten children with.
Jul 18th 2011, 4:26 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
Joe Kagan was made a knight in Wilson's first resignation list in 1970
and a baron in the second resignation list in 1976
subsequently served 10months, fined £375k, for theft from his own
companies
Wilson honest ?
Was it the NoW that failed to prove he had a relationship with Marcia ?
Jul 18th 2011, 5:49 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
did he pay for his Gannex Raincoats ??
Joe Kagan was made a knight in Wilson's first resignation list in 1970
and a baron in the second resignation list in 1976
subsequently served 10months, fined £375k, for theft from his own
companies
Wilson honest ?
Was it the NoW that failed to prove he had a relationship with Marcia ?
Joe Kagan was made a knight in Wilson's first resignation list in 1970
and a baron in the second resignation list in 1976
subsequently served 10months, fined £375k, for theft from his own
companies
Wilson honest ?
Was it the NoW that failed to prove he had a relationship with Marcia ?
If that's all you can dig out, the guy was cleaner than I thought!
Let's be reasonable, look how the rest of the breed walk away from power with bulging pockets.
Jul 19th 2011, 9:51 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
The problem is that only an imbecile would believe that gold will not rise during any financial crisis, the first thing any politician should be made to study is history it is through history that we learn our mistakes ask any child growing up.
It is a great pity that the Libdems cannot shed their stupid left and right extremes and become a true centre party then maybe we would have a sensible third party. In any dealings locally that I have had with politicians it has always been the Liberals, (long time ago), that fought for the people at local council level.
Graham
It is a great pity that the Libdems cannot shed their stupid left and right extremes and become a true centre party then maybe we would have a sensible third party. In any dealings locally that I have had with politicians it has always been the Liberals, (long time ago), that fought for the people at local council level.
Graham
Jul 19th 2011, 9:57 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
I must admit that my opinion of Foot and Wilson are unprintable. Condoms should have been used more early on in the twentieth century.
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Jul 19th 2011, 10:29 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
He gave us the open University.
Which other prime minister did half so well?
Jul 19th 2011, 10:57 pm
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Re: Well done Gordon
Wilsons years were a total waste.
He never ever faced up to or solved a single problem.
Everything was swept under the carpet and eventually came to a head to bite Callaghan on the ass.
Jul 20th 2011, 6:03 am
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Public opinion kept us out of Vietnam, plus the fact that neither party had any stomach for getting involved.
Wilsons years were a total waste.
He never ever faced up to or solved a single problem.
Everything was swept under the carpet and eventually came to a head to bite Callaghan on the ass.
Wilsons years were a total waste.
He never ever faced up to or solved a single problem.
Everything was swept under the carpet and eventually came to a head to bite Callaghan on the ass.
Graham
