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amideislas Sep 6th 2013 3:45 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by zenkarma (Post 10888968)
What trained researchers might those be? The ones working for and being paid by the American government, who just happens to be fighting a war on drugs? What methodology are they using? What's the sample size? How are they reaching those conclusions and what are the basing them on?

Without any of that information it's just more government propaganda to justify their war on drugs.



What users might those be and do you have any examples you'd like to cite? Or are you going to simply point your finger back to the same government and media propaganda sources that tell everyone Cannabis use is bad because it's politically expedient for them to want to do so?

You appear to have a very anti-Cannabis stance yet can't back any of your claims up with a single shred of evidence beyond posting a link to an American government drugs site that says Cannabis is bad!

Fortunately there has been some really intelligent posts on this subject in this thread by people who really understand the issues. But sad that the same government and media fueled hysteria about how bad it is still seems to pervade some minds that can't think for themselves and don't appear to have the slightest clue with regards to the issues that surround the subject matter.

I wasn't aware the Americans were the only place on the planet that's outlawed the stuff. Better not tell that to California, they could get a ticket for that!

Anyway, welcome to the zoo. You and Cman will get along just fine. In fact, you both write so similarly, it's as if you're the same person!

Truly a match made in heaven! When does the next show begin? I can't wait :D

Dick Dasterdly Sep 6th 2013 4:11 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by zenkarma (Post 10888968)
What trained researchers might those be? The ones working for and being paid by the American government, who just happens to be fighting a war on drugs? What methodology are they using? What's the sample size? How are they reaching those conclusions and what are the basing them on?

Without any of that information it's just more government propaganda to justify their war on drugs.

Try this one then from the UK Royal College or do they not have a clue either ?

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/expertadvic.../cannabis.aspx

Maybe you'll publish your own research papers one day and kindly enlighten us all. :cool:

zenkarma Sep 6th 2013 4:37 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10889049)
Try this one then from the UK Royal College or do they not have a clue either ?

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/expertadvic.../cannabis.aspx

The key here is to actually read the articles you're linking to, to prove your point. The key paragraph here is -
Over the past few years, research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents.
Strongly suggested. That means that can't or don't have sufficient evidence to prove conclusively there is a causal link. They just think it.

Genetic vulnerability. That means those people already pre-disposed to developing those type mental disorders can increase the risk of producing them by Cannabis use.

No-one said Cannabis was suitable for everyone, in precisely the same way that alcohol isn't suited to everyone either.

I'm still waiting for you to produce some hard concrete evidence to backup and support your views that Cannabis is harmful because so far you've been unable to do so. Any deaths been caused by it? Any real health problems? Any harm to society of an adult making a free-will choice of consuming Cannabis?

You can't do it, yet you still continue to peddle the view that it's harmful to society. You simply paraphrase and repeat what the government and media tell you to believe.

zenkarma Sep 6th 2013 4:41 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10889004)
I wasn't aware the Americans were the only place on the planet that's outlawed the stuff. Better not tell that to California, they could get a ticket for that!

I'm not quite sure what point you're making here. The link posted was to a US Government site claiming Cannabis was harmful. I didn't make any comment on legality or otherwise of Cannabis in the USA.


Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10889004)
You and Cman will get along just fine. In fact, you both write so similarly, it's as if you're the same person!

I have no idea who you are referring to here I'm afraid.

jimenato Sep 6th 2013 5:08 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by zenkarma (Post 10888600)
You believe all of that published by the American government do you? They're not biased in any way really are they? Do you always believe everything governments tell you? Do you always believe everything the media tells you?

For as many reports that say cannabis is harmful, I can probably show you just as many that say it isn't. Who to believe?

Incidentally, swop out the words marijuana and cannabis for alcohol and that article will actually start to make some sense.

I would be very interested to see those reports that say that cannabis isn't harmful.

Mitzyboy Sep 6th 2013 5:10 am

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I'd be interested to see how many people on this forum have actually partaken of the "evil weed" :D

jimenato Sep 6th 2013 5:15 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10889167)
I'd be interested to see how many people on this forum have actually partaken of the "evil weed" :D

:tape:

andyrich666 Sep 6th 2013 6:08 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10889167)
I'd be interested to see how many people on this forum have actually partaken of the "evil weed" :D

Not me, as I don't smoke, I would not mind someone cooking me some cakes though :fingerscrossed:

Probably tried a lot of other things that I should not have, There is a few things I have avoided and I think now I am approaching a older age I doubt I will try them.

rugbymatt Sep 6th 2013 6:28 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10888912)
Nice first post
How to make friends and influence people :rofl:

I like them, they seem like my type of people...

IamStu Sep 6th 2013 6:32 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10889237)
Not me, as I don't smoke, I would not mind someone cooking me some cakes though :fingerscrossed:

Probably tried a lot of other things that I should not have, There is a few things I have avoided and I think now I am approaching a older age I doubt I will try them.

ahhh go on! You know you want to :blink:

rugbymatt Sep 6th 2013 6:35 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10889167)
I'd be interested to see how many people on this forum have actually partaken of the "evil weed" :D

Hell yeah... Why not? People drink, why shouldn't I partake?



(You're just trying to work out which one of us is closest to you aren't you?)

Mitzyboy Sep 6th 2013 6:41 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10889277)
Hell yeah... Why not? People drink, why shouldn't I partake?



(You're just trying to work out which one of us is closest to you aren't you?)


I tried it many years ago ... had to be done.
I was a Customs Officer at the time, but what the hell .... we wuz young :rofl:

andyrich666 Sep 6th 2013 6:46 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10889285)
I tried it many years ago ... had to be done.
I was a Customs Officer at the time, but what the hell .... we wuz young :rofl:

and someone had the cheek to say I was a stereotypical Essex Fag smuggler moving to Spain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rugbymatt Sep 6th 2013 6:47 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10889285)
I tried it many years ago ... had to be done.
I was a Customs Officer at the time, but what the hell .... we wuz young :rofl:

Aparently the only sort you can buy now is skunk... that's one of the things I learned on BE... that skunk is the main type of blow you can buy now in the UK... It's pretty much all there is to buy....


I used to go to a nightclub many years ago in Bognor, the doormen, man mountains they were... used to ask us... "Come on then son, you got any drugs on ya?"... we used to look at them with innocent eyes and say... "No sir, none at all" To which they would reply, "Want some?"


Anyway... Just say no Mitz... drugs are bad for you, they will make you grow a ponytail and take up driving girly sportscars....

Mitzyboy Sep 6th 2013 6:51 am

Re: Weedy topic!
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10889296)
Anyway... Just say no Mitz... drugs are bad for you, they will make you grow a ponytail and take up driving girly sportscars....

Heh heh ... yes, but sorry to disappoint you .... I'm driving a Jaguar now :lol:


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