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Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by Lynn R
(Post 10868583)
Which is precisely the same situation as millions of habitual cannabis/marijuana users.
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Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by amideislas
(Post 10868161)
Iran apparently has the highest percentage of drug use in the world. ...and sex crimes, too... Has perhaps the strictest anti-drug laws in the world.
The UK comes in at #2 (somehow not terribly surprising). Holland apparently has a remarkably low usage/addiction rate, and very low rate of sex crimes. Doesn't even show up in the top 30. Isn't that ironic? Highest drug use countries However, that website looks rather suspect to me. For example, the table column depicting "Total number of addicts" doesn't make sense from the way they have written the comma; is the number of heroin addicts in Iran 95,000 or 950,000?? And some of their spelling just isn't English. |
Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10868581)
Whilst I agree with your point that alcoholism is a major problem, I don't see it as a valid comparison with drug abuse.
The vast majority of habitual alcohol users do so in moderation and have enough control of the habit not to allow it to be detrimental to their own lives or the lives of others. How many hard drug users can say the same once they've got into the habit ? If we are talking about cannabis then there is no evidence that the weed itself is addict forming, alcohol is. When we talk about harder drugs then often its not the drug itself that is the issue but what it's cut with, as already pointed out. It's not uncommon at all to find Vim, bicarb, horse drugs, talk, lactose, in fact almost anything they can get their hands on... heroin is one of the worst for being adulterated. Lets not forget that in its purest form of diamorphine it has saved tens of millions of lives since the 1800's.... cut it with crap and sell it to weak vulnerable people and it kills. |
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It's interesting that the various agencies set up to combat severe addiction to alcohol, mostly AA, now accept drug addicts into their treatment programme too, the addictions being strikingly similar.
Similarly, an easy and effective treatment has yet to be found. Rich celebrities go to extremely expensive treatment centres and frequently lapse, just the same as ordinary people going to free meetings. You can fall on your knees and pray your heart out, but it won't replace the soothing effect of whatever you became addicted to. I would bet that most families in the land have witnessed such wicked addiction at first hand within their family circle. There's even a strong belief that such addictions are inherited. |
Re: Weedy topic!
To take my point a little further, a considerable percentage of late teens and early twenties have been going out getting rat-arsed on alcohol on weekends as long as I can remember.
The vast majority do not turn into alcos, well not until they've been married for about 40 yrs anyway) ;). Had they been abusing hard drugs in a similar manner, the vast majority would soon be addicted and wreck their lives in no time at all. |
Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10868619)
To take my point a little further, a considerable percentage of late teens and early twenties have been going out getting rat-arsed on alcohol on weekends as long as I can remember.
The vast majority do not turn into alcos, well not until they've been married for about 40 yrs anyway) ;). Had they been abusing hard drugs in a similar manner, the vast majority would soon be addicted and wreck their lives in no time at all. You keep changing cannabis for "hard drugs". Cannabis isn't a hard drug. |
Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10868619)
... Had they been abusing hard drugs in a similar manner, the vast majority would soon be addicted and wreck their lives in no time at all. |
Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by IamStu
(Post 10868639)
But DD, kids smoke cannabis these days as freely as you might have smoked a cigarette, or equal to the amount of which they drink booze. Where are all the drug addicts?
You keep changing cannabis for "hard drugs". Cannabis isn't a hard drug. I'm fully aware that cannabis is not a hard drug, though as I pointed out earlier it is not without its risks. |
Re: Weedy topic!
http://www.michaelshouse.com/drug-ad...e-drugs-world/
Some interesting figures. MOST ADDICTIVE DRUGS First, Nicotine at over 30% of those who became regular users. Second, Caffeine at slightly less than 30% Third, Heroine at 25% Fourth Cocaine, (no figure given). Fifth, Alcohol at 15% |
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Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10868683)
http://www.michaelshouse.com/drug-ad...e-drugs-world/
Some interesting figures. MOST ADDICTIVE DRUGS First, Nicotine at over 30% of those who became regular users. Second, Caffeine at slightly less than 30% Third, Heroine at 25% Fourth Cocaine, (no figure given). Fifth, Alcohol at 15% All credence to the OP on the subject of cannabis ... it doesn't even make the list:blink: |
Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by IamStu
(Post 10868700)
Quite an interesting post there DD.
All credence to the OP on the subject of cannabis ... it doesn't even make the list:blink: It's immediate effects don't on the face of it seem to be dramatic or dangerous, however there appears to be much to learn regarding it's long term effects as ever increasing numbers of regular users end up in mental facilities. |
Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 10868240)
I've said this time and time again on here, if Alcohol was recently discovered and the inventor was waiting for GMC clearance to begin selling it then it wouldn't even be licensed it's so full of toxins and potential harm.
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Re: Weedy topic!
Originally Posted by rachelk
(Post 10868785)
True, but the same could probably be said of lots of processed foods.
But I guess GMO is a whole new topic! |
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Here's what it does to you. The guys been sober and clean for six days. Six days!
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/b...004850501.html |
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