Visit to Uk
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:02 am
#121
Ex Expat
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,140
From: West Midlands, ex Granada province
Re: Visit to Uk
I have quoted the above as more of a representation of all that some people think is wrong about the UK ex-pat community in many parts of southern spain.
I have seen this attitude grow over the last 40 years (bought my apartment in 1971) and have given up trying to explain that looking back to the UK with rose tinted specs is probably the most negative thing you can do. Like a small minority of others I made a decision to stop pretending Spain was the UK with sunshine, stop moaning about what we couldn't get and buy the local equivilant. Sad thing was that with the ex-pat's came the 'english' bar the 'Irish' bar and all other associated tat and UK seaside rubbish. Thank god for the recession and the disappearing 'theme' pubs/bars/clubs.
On the odd return to the UK all I see is a society hemmed in by rules,taxes,health nazi's and signs forbidding you to do anything !!!!!
Even passport control treats me like something they have just trodden in.
Rant over.....
Andy
War is God's way of teaching americans geography
I have seen this attitude grow over the last 40 years (bought my apartment in 1971) and have given up trying to explain that looking back to the UK with rose tinted specs is probably the most negative thing you can do. Like a small minority of others I made a decision to stop pretending Spain was the UK with sunshine, stop moaning about what we couldn't get and buy the local equivilant. Sad thing was that with the ex-pat's came the 'english' bar the 'Irish' bar and all other associated tat and UK seaside rubbish. Thank god for the recession and the disappearing 'theme' pubs/bars/clubs.
On the odd return to the UK all I see is a society hemmed in by rules,taxes,health nazi's and signs forbidding you to do anything !!!!!
Even passport control treats me like something they have just trodden in.
Rant over.....
Andy
War is God's way of teaching americans geography
I do buy the 'local equivalent'. Doesn't stop me liking the British one.
Moving to Spain did not make me hate the country of my birth.
I think Spain's laws are a lot more 'hemmed in' than the UK. For a start you have to prove yourself innocent and if you cannot you are presumed to be guilty.
I don't know about the 'seaside rubbish'. I have not lived at the 'seaside' in either UK or Spain.
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:04 am
#122
Ex Expat
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,140
From: West Midlands, ex Granada province
Re: Visit to Uk
In the UK my son has 20 meg wireless broadband for about £10 a month.
Last edited by scampicat; Feb 8th 2011 at 8:09 am.
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:33 am
#123
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,590
Re: Visit to Uk
We were told for six years that we could not have ADSL. Now that we can have it we have been waiting six weeks (still waiting) to have it connected and it is going to cost us 35 euros a month for up to 6 meg.
In the UK my son has 20 meg wireless broadband for about £10 a month.
In the UK my son has 20 meg wireless broadband for about £10 a month.
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:44 am
#124
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,590
Re: Visit to Uk
I don't look 'back' to the UK, with rose- or any other colour glasses. We spent five years full-time in Spain; the last two years we have done half and halr. We kept our house in the UK.
I do buy the 'local equivalent'. Doesn't stop me liking the British one.
Moving to Spain did not make me hate the country of my birth.
I think Spain's laws are a lot more 'hemmed in' than the UK. For a start you have to prove yourself innocent and if you cannot you are presumed to be guilty.
I don't know about the 'seaside rubbish'. I have not lived at the 'seaside' in either UK or Spain.
I do buy the 'local equivalent'. Doesn't stop me liking the British one.
Moving to Spain did not make me hate the country of my birth.
I think Spain's laws are a lot more 'hemmed in' than the UK. For a start you have to prove yourself innocent and if you cannot you are presumed to be guilty.
I don't know about the 'seaside rubbish'. I have not lived at the 'seaside' in either UK or Spain.
I don't think anyone on here has ever said that they hate the UK, except perhaps some when talking about others comments that they may have misinterpreted, as you are now. There is a difference in preferring one place to another for whatever reasons.
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:46 am
#125
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,367
Re: Visit to Uk
As I said, we enjoy the spring, early summer in Spain, but look around at the end of the summer and it's all pretty brown and parched. I like the Vejer area, and my brother went on my recommendation, but he went late summer, and didn't like it all, because everything was so dry and brown.
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:47 am
#126
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Re: Visit to Uk
I don't look 'back' to the UK, with rose- or any other colour glasses. We spent five years full-time in Spain; the last two years we have done half and halr. We kept our house in the UK.
I do buy the 'local equivalent'. Doesn't stop me liking the British one.
Moving to Spain did not make me hate the country of my birth.
I think Spain's laws are a lot more 'hemmed in' than the UK. For a start you have to prove yourself innocent and if you cannot you are presumed to be guilty.
I don't know about the 'seaside rubbish'. I have not lived at the 'seaside' in either UK or Spain.
I do buy the 'local equivalent'. Doesn't stop me liking the British one.
Moving to Spain did not make me hate the country of my birth.
I think Spain's laws are a lot more 'hemmed in' than the UK. For a start you have to prove yourself innocent and if you cannot you are presumed to be guilty.
I don't know about the 'seaside rubbish'. I have not lived at the 'seaside' in either UK or Spain.
I was used to the easy going way in the UK, the not having to show a load of paperwork just to join the library for example...
No it does not seem so bad now, but in the beginning it really got on my nerves.
Feb 8th 2011 | 12:42 pm
#127
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Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,646
From: Near Alora....but not too near. :)
Re: Visit to Uk
Our ADSL was connected within a week, but anyone here who does not already have a landline can't get one!
Our ADSL is only 1mg and it costs 40€ a month, that includes free local and national calls, we also pay an extra 3€ a month to get our international calls at a lower rate.
There is not a hope in hell of the speed being increased anytime soon, and no option other than Telefonica if we want it landline based.
Feb 8th 2011 | 3:57 pm
#128
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Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 474
Re: Visit to Uk
I have quoted the above as more of a representation of all that some people think is wrong about the UK ex-pat community in many parts of southern spain.
I have seen this attitude grow over the last 40 years (bought my apartment in 1971) and have given up trying to explain that looking back to the UK with rose tinted specs is probably the most negative thing you can do. Like a small minority of others I made a decision to stop pretending Spain was the UK with sunshine, stop moaning about what we couldn't get and buy the local equivilant. Sad thing was that with the ex-pat's came the 'english' bar the 'Irish' bar and all other associated tat and UK seaside rubbish. Thank god for the recession and the disappearing 'theme' pubs/bars/clubs.
On the odd return to the UK all I see is a society hemmed in by rules,taxes,health nazi's and signs forbidding you to do anything !!!!!
Even passport control treats me like something they have just trodden in.
Rant over.....
I have seen this attitude grow over the last 40 years (bought my apartment in 1971) and have given up trying to explain that looking back to the UK with rose tinted specs is probably the most negative thing you can do. Like a small minority of others I made a decision to stop pretending Spain was the UK with sunshine, stop moaning about what we couldn't get and buy the local equivilant. Sad thing was that with the ex-pat's came the 'english' bar the 'Irish' bar and all other associated tat and UK seaside rubbish. Thank god for the recession and the disappearing 'theme' pubs/bars/clubs.
On the odd return to the UK all I see is a society hemmed in by rules,taxes,health nazi's and signs forbidding you to do anything !!!!!
Even passport control treats me like something they have just trodden in.
Rant over.....
Could not agree any more than you.
DSB.
Feb 8th 2011 | 7:31 pm
#131
Lost in BE Cyberspace
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Re: Visit to Uk
http://abroadinspain.com/2009/11/18/...pain/#more-838
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:08 pm
#132
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 29,813
From: ex ex-pat, in Taunton
Re: Visit to Uk
No nanny state in Spain surely, reading this forum I thought it was only UK that had red tape.
http://abroadinspain.com/2009/11/18/...pain/#more-838
http://abroadinspain.com/2009/11/18/...pain/#more-838
Feb 8th 2011 | 8:57 pm
#134
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Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,178
Re: Visit to Uk
No nanny state in Spain surely, reading this forum I thought it was only UK that had red tape.
http://abroadinspain.com/2009/11/18/...pain/#more-838
http://abroadinspain.com/2009/11/18/...pain/#more-838
Feb 8th 2011 | 9:52 pm
#135
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,824
From: Living in a good place
Re: Visit to Uk
I think Spanish authorities are far more controlling than the UK ,if you do everything by the book (many dont) small business is often impossible ,you even need to get planning permission to paint your house!!! ,even selling a car is a major paper shuffeling exercise, working part time is nearly immpossible and rarley viable (legally) , you have to carry ID at all times and when driving you need all your docs etc etc
