Vaccination
Jul 24th 2011, 2:29 pm
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Re: Vaccination
Back to the original theme, and as a matter of interest, are children in Spain who haven't been vaccinated at all but accepted into school, allowed to go on school trips?
I ask, because children in France whose vaccinations aren't for some reason up to date, aren't allowed to go on a day-trip, let alone a week in a foreign country, with their class. Not so much because of the risk of catching children's diseases, but tetanos following an injury.
Just wondered....
I ask, because children in France whose vaccinations aren't for some reason up to date, aren't allowed to go on a day-trip, let alone a week in a foreign country, with their class. Not so much because of the risk of catching children's diseases, but tetanos following an injury.
Just wondered....
Jul 24th 2011, 2:32 pm
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Re: Vaccination
I just can't understand how you could get shingles, which is the chickenpox virus already in your body, hidden in the nervous system AFTER BEING DEFEATED BY YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM.
So, to get shingles, first you have to get chicken pox.
I'm pretty sure that any so called 'childhood disease' is more serious whe caught as an adult.
So, to get shingles, first you have to get chicken pox.
I'm pretty sure that any so called 'childhood disease' is more serious whe caught as an adult.
Of course without getting Polly or her mother or her Dr infront of me I won't know this.
I do know that sometimes parents with more than one child don't always have total recall over which child had what disease and sometimes people grow up thinking they had german measles when actually, it might have been their sister.
My mum knows that one of us had mumps. She knows it wasn't me - the eldest. She's not entirely sure now if it was middle child or younger child.... and the kids in question were too young to remember themselves. I personally think it was my little little sister and think I have more memory in this now than my mother does. There was something about tiny sister looking like a full-cheeked hamster and only being able to drink through a straw that stuck in my brain and the fact that my birthday party got cancelled coz stupid little sister had the mumps !
Mum had probably lived through, nursed and cured so much crap with all 3 of us that's it's no wonder her and other mums eventually start to mix things up.
Jul 24th 2011, 2:43 pm
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Re: Vaccination
Back to the original theme, and as a matter of interest, are children in Spain who haven't been vaccinated at all but accepted into school, allowed to go on school trips?
I ask, because children in France whose vaccinations aren't for some reason up to date, aren't allowed to go on a day-trip, let alone a week in a foreign country, with their class. Not so much because of the risk of catching children's diseases, but tetanos following an injury.
Just wondered....
I ask, because children in France whose vaccinations aren't for some reason up to date, aren't allowed to go on a day-trip, let alone a week in a foreign country, with their class. Not so much because of the risk of catching children's diseases, but tetanos following an injury.
Just wondered....
but after the initial medical we've never been asked again, and both dds have been on residential trips, although not outside Spain
eta - just thought - they have to carry their medical cards with them when they go on residential trips - and all the info re: jabs & so on is on a central computer.....so they could just check re:tetanus etc. I guess
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Jul 24th 2011, 7:29 pm
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Re: Vaccination
OK, thanks for replying!
But I'm still intrigued to know whether non-vaccinated children are allowed to go on residential trips...
I forgot to mention in my "they've got to be vaccinated at some stage anyway" post above, that my daughter had to produce her French "Health Book" when enrolling at a German University to prove that she was vaccinated (having produced it for French Uni).
Do Spanish Uni's demand this, too?
But I'm still intrigued to know whether non-vaccinated children are allowed to go on residential trips...
I forgot to mention in my "they've got to be vaccinated at some stage anyway" post above, that my daughter had to produce her French "Health Book" when enrolling at a German University to prove that she was vaccinated (having produced it for French Uni).
Do Spanish Uni's demand this, too?
Jul 24th 2011, 7:31 pm
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Re: Vaccination
OK, thanks for replying!
But I'm still intrigued to know whether non-vaccinated children are allowed to go on residential trips...
I forgot to mention in my "they've got to be vaccinated at some stage anyway" post above, that my daughter had to produce her French "Health Book" when enrolling at a German University to prove that she was vaccinated (having produced it for French Uni).
Do Spanish Uni's demand this, too?
But I'm still intrigued to know whether non-vaccinated children are allowed to go on residential trips...
I forgot to mention in my "they've got to be vaccinated at some stage anyway" post above, that my daughter had to produce her French "Health Book" when enrolling at a German University to prove that she was vaccinated (having produced it for French Uni).
Do Spanish Uni's demand this, too?
Jul 24th 2011, 7:35 pm
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Re: Vaccination
In theory what you said is all true ......... which is why I said that Polly's case might have been severe adult chicken pox and just presumed to be shingles.... because Polly doesn't really fit the age bracket for shingles.
Of course without getting Polly or her mother or her Dr infront of me I won't know this.
I do know that sometimes parents with more than one child don't always have total recall over which child had what disease and sometimes people grow up thinking they had german measles when actually, it might have been their sister.
My mum knows that one of us had mumps. She knows it wasn't me - the eldest. She's not entirely sure now if it was middle child or younger child.... and the kids in question were too young to remember themselves. I personally think it was my little little sister and think I have more memory in this now than my mother does. There was something about tiny sister looking like a full-cheeked hamster and only being able to drink through a straw that stuck in my brain and the fact that my birthday party got cancelled coz stupid little sister had the mumps !
Mum had probably lived through, nursed and cured so much crap with all 3 of us that's it's no wonder her and other mums eventually start to mix things up.
Of course without getting Polly or her mother or her Dr infront of me I won't know this.
I do know that sometimes parents with more than one child don't always have total recall over which child had what disease and sometimes people grow up thinking they had german measles when actually, it might have been their sister.
My mum knows that one of us had mumps. She knows it wasn't me - the eldest. She's not entirely sure now if it was middle child or younger child.... and the kids in question were too young to remember themselves. I personally think it was my little little sister and think I have more memory in this now than my mother does. There was something about tiny sister looking like a full-cheeked hamster and only being able to drink through a straw that stuck in my brain and the fact that my birthday party got cancelled coz stupid little sister had the mumps !
Mum had probably lived through, nursed and cured so much crap with all 3 of us that's it's no wonder her and other mums eventually start to mix things up.
Jul 24th 2011, 9:17 pm
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Re: Vaccination
In theory what you said is all true ......... which is why I said that Polly's case might have been severe adult chicken pox and just presumed to be shingles.... because Polly doesn't really fit the age bracket for shingles.
Of course without getting Polly or her mother or her Dr infront of me I won't know this.
I do know that sometimes parents with more than one child don't always have total recall over which child had what disease and sometimes people grow up thinking they had german measles when actually, it might have been their sister.
My mum knows that one of us had mumps. She knows it wasn't me - the eldest. She's not entirely sure now if it was middle child or younger child.... and the kids in question were too young to remember themselves. I personally think it was my little little sister and think I have more memory in this now than my mother does. There was something about tiny sister looking like a full-cheeked hamster and only being able to drink through a straw that stuck in my brain and the fact that my birthday party got cancelled coz stupid little sister had the mumps !
Mum had probably lived through, nursed and cured so much crap with all 3 of us that's it's no wonder her and other mums eventually start to mix things up.
Of course without getting Polly or her mother or her Dr infront of me I won't know this.
I do know that sometimes parents with more than one child don't always have total recall over which child had what disease and sometimes people grow up thinking they had german measles when actually, it might have been their sister.
My mum knows that one of us had mumps. She knows it wasn't me - the eldest. She's not entirely sure now if it was middle child or younger child.... and the kids in question were too young to remember themselves. I personally think it was my little little sister and think I have more memory in this now than my mother does. There was something about tiny sister looking like a full-cheeked hamster and only being able to drink through a straw that stuck in my brain and the fact that my birthday party got cancelled coz stupid little sister had the mumps !
Mum had probably lived through, nursed and cured so much crap with all 3 of us that's it's no wonder her and other mums eventually start to mix things up.
As to whether it was chicken pox or shingles I had in 2004 I'm not a medic but the nerve pain that went with it indicates it was shingles. Absolute agony and unable to move without screaming for 4 or 5 days. That was worse than any other symptom like the spots. I didn't see a doctor, we were too broke for me to pay for one and it hurt to much to move enough to get up and go to find one.
Jul 25th 2011, 6:57 am
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Re: Vaccination
Jul 25th 2011, 7:05 am
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but the medical cards/computer records will have the info on them
I do know a kid who turned up at the coach for a ski trip at 4am who was sent home because she didn't have her medical card with her, so possibly they won't let them
Jul 25th 2011, 7:17 am
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Re: Vaccination
This happened to one of my daughter's classmates who wasn't allowed to go on a week-long exchange visit with her class. The teacher (and host family in Germany) were not amused....
Jul 26th 2011, 3:32 pm
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Re: Vaccination
if she hadn't been able to get the card I doubt they'd have got a refund, either
