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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   Spain (https://britishexpats.com/forum/spain-75/)
-   -   Underhanded spineless scum (https://britishexpats.com/forum/spain-75/underhanded-spineless-scum-806103/)

Domino Aug 16th 2013 10:45 pm
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by pete_l (Post 10854104)
The only reason that Spain is Argentina's new best friend is because they happen to be president of the UN Security Council for the next 6 months and therefore have some, albeit fleeting, influence right now.
UNSC Prezzy is a post that rotates around the members, it's got nothing to do with merit or power - just muggin's turn.
AAHHH !! So nothing to do with fact that Spain have already said somewhere they are joining in allegiance with Argentina because the UK's intransigence over the Falklands is the same as the UK's intransigence over Gibraltar. This giving the two countries common cause against UK.
:blink:

rugbymatt Aug 16th 2013 10:46 pm
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10853787)
Seeing as you have asked a few times it has turned bad today..drizzling. Wasn't yesterday though when I did my post been hot and sunny for weeks...our garden really needs rain.

BTW..not in Surrey anymore, sold at a grand profit and we are in West Sussex in a nice pile with a private wood at the bottom of the garden:p
Nice upgrade... a better class of people come from there...

Domino Aug 16th 2013 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10855056)
I agree that the consent of the Gibraltese is paramount but should ii finally come down to determining the views of the native population the following should apply.
Those who have taken up residence for tax dodging, Brits , Spanish or any other nationality or those who have moved there lets say in the last 25 years should be excluded.
I wonder how many that would leave.
The Swiss have the right idea, you can live there if you have enough money but you do not have the automatic rights of Swiss born nationals.
but when the UK mooted this idea the EU slapped their wrist.
I would love to see those who come over legally as well as illegally being restricted in their rights until they are "time served".

perhaps this would stop those who preach death and damnation to the English and Christians, and anyone they choose from day to day, from bringing over their extended family and taking council houses and benefits to help fund their activities.
:fingerscrossed:

Fredbargate Aug 16th 2013 11:07 pm
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Well I'm glad I am Gibraltarian because I seem to detect an undercurrent of dislike towards the Gibraltese :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Dick Dasterdly Aug 16th 2013 11:35 pm
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10855121)
Well I'm glad I am Gibraltarian because I seem to detect an undercurrent of dislike towards the Gibraltese :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Well Malta has Maltese, (or should that be Maltesers).

So why can't Gibraltar have Gibraltese or Gibral-teasers. ?

Fredbargate Aug 16th 2013 11:58 pm
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10855139)
Well Malta has Maltese, (or should that be Maltesers).

So why can't Gibraltar have Gibraltese or Gibral-teasers. ?
Spain will not sell us the chocolate ;)

Dick Dasterdly Aug 17th 2013 12:22 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10855161)
Spain will not sell us the chocolate ;)
Well if things get really bad as in the Berlin Airlift, I'm sure the RAF would be happy to fly some in.
Best not drop it by parachute though or you'll have those darned Spanish fishermen sailing right up to the beaches trying to snaffle it. ;)

Fredbargate Aug 17th 2013 12:30 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10855181)
Well if things get really bad as in the Berlin Airlift, I'm sure the RAF would be happy to fly some in.
Best not drop it by parachute though or you'll have those darned Spanish fishermen sailing right up to the beaches trying to snaffle it. ;)
Well if it comes to that then the aircrews will be staying at RAF Northfront, commonly known as Western Beach were they will be relaxing on the sand we stole from Spain like they have been doing since the runway was built all those years ago.
Mind you in those days it was a private military beach and the locals were not allowed.

We can't have locals enjoying a beach paid for by UK taxpayers can we now. :rofl::rofl:

notacontrathinker Aug 17th 2013 1:09 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10855183)
Well if it comes to that then the aircrews will be staying at RAF Northfront, commonly known as Western Beach were they will be relaxing on the sand we stole from Spain like they have been doing since the runway was built all those years ago.
Mind you in those days it was a private military beach and the locals were not allowed.

We can't have locals enjoying a beach paid for by UK taxpayers can we now. :rofl::rofl:
And you still can't come up with any legal justification for the Gibraltar frontier being where it is ?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

pete_l Aug 17th 2013 2:56 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by notacontrathinker (Post 10855240)
And you still can't come up with any legal justification for the Gibraltar frontier being where it is ?
I expect the reason the Gib border is where it is is similar to the reasons why the Cueta and Melilla borders are where they are, too. :eek:

notacontrathinker Aug 17th 2013 3:02 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by pete_l (Post 10855358)
I expect the reason the Gib border is where it is is similar to the reasons why the Cueta and Melilla borders are where they are, too. :eek:
No.

The Gibraltar border is specified by the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht.

The current Gibraltar frontier is in the area designated as a neutral area in 1713 Treaty of Utrecht, and has never been ceded to Britain.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 17th 2013 3:21 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by notacontrathinker (Post 10855365)
No.

The Gibraltar border is specified by the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht.

The current Gibraltar frontier is in the area designated as a neutral area in 1713 Treaty of Utrecht, and has never been ceded to Britain.
Strange, much of the anti-Brit opinion on here is that the Treaty should be thrown in the bin and forgotten about, now all of a sudden part of it serves a useful purpose. :confused:

What amazes me the most is how they wish to squabble on Spains behalf about a few thousand sq mtrs of land at the most and the same amount of sea whilst in possession and having use of a zillion times times that amount in both cases.

Those miniscule disputed areas are of no importance at all to Spain in the bigger picture of things in comparison to Gib and I can only put such petty childlike behaviour down to no more than sheer bloody mindedness.

jimenato Aug 17th 2013 3:29 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10855386)
Strange, much of the anti-Brit opinion on here is that the Treaty should be thrown in the bin and forgotten about, now all of a sudden part of it serves a useful purpose. :confused:

What amazes me the most is how they wish to squabble on Spains behalf about a few thousand sq mtrs of land at the most and the same amount of sea whilst in possession and having use of a zillion times times that amount in both cases.

Those miniscule disputed areas are of no importance at all to Spain in the bigger picture of things in comparison to Gib and I can only put such petty childlike behaviour down to no more than sheer bloody mindedness.
Hear - bloody hear!

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Fredbargate Aug 17th 2013 3:41 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10855386)
What amazes me the most is how they wish to squabble on Spains behalf.
Well lets hope that when they have been there long enough ( 10 years ? ) they will apply for Spanish citizenship and thereby endorse their true feelings.

rugbymatt Aug 17th 2013 4:05 am
Re: Underhanded spineless scum
 
Originally Posted by notacontrathinker (Post 10855365)
No.

The Gibraltar border is specified by the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht.

The current Gibraltar frontier is in the area designated as a neutral area in 1713 Treaty of Utrecht, and has never been ceded to Britain.
Actually... if its the isthmus that you are referring to, the "neutral area", you might be slightly right in that it was never ceded to Britain but it did contain some forts that did and the Treaty of Utrecht quite clearly stated that the British were within their right to occupy all the forts of the whole area. "together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging" and it never actually defines the extent of Britain's sovereignty beyond the fortified areas.

Now this is all pretty much moot since some of that isthmus now houses part of La Linea, taken from the "neutral territory" by Franco in the 60's.

None of which means a nats toss of course because, as we all know, in the world today, Might is always Right.


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