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Old Jan 29th 2007, 7:38 pm
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This programme seemed to portray a nightmare image for Brits living in Spain, who fall ill after their first two years, who are also under pensionable age. They are not covered by the Spanish health system and it seems neither by the NHS.

What are some of you doing to get around this problem, apart from taking out health cover (if you can get it)?
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This programme seemed to portray a nightmare image for Brits living in Spain, who fall ill after their first two years, who are also under pensionable age. They are not covered by the Spanish health system and it seems neither by the NHS.

What are some of you doing to get around this problem, apart from taking out health cover (if you can get it)?
How about learning the language , integrating in to local society , getting a job , paying in to the system , oh i forgot the English expect everything for nothing so they sit on their fat arses having seen place in the sun expecting everyone to speak english, and despite leaving england create their own little England and expect all the benefits they had before , GET REAL !!

If i was Minister for Murcia instead of caving in to poor ill Britains i would make it law , no local language , no integration , no healthcare .
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Old Jan 29th 2007, 7:59 pm
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How about learning the language , integrating in to local society , getting a job , paying in to the system , oh i forgot the English expect everything for nothing so they sit on their fat arses having seen place in the sun expecting everyone to speak english, and despite leaving england create their own little England and expect all the benefits they had before , GET REAL !!

If i was Minister for Murcia instead of caving in to poor ill Britains i would make it law , no local language , no integration , no healthcare .
Whats your problem....GET REAL? It was a question ,that all.

Do not judge us all the same way.
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Old Jan 29th 2007, 8:03 pm
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Whats your problem....GET REAL? It was a question ,that all.

Do not judge us all the same way.
If the Uk is so bad and everyone wants to move away why do the majority want to recreate it when they go anywhere ?
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If the Uk is so bad and everyone wants to move away why do the majority want to recreate it when they go anywhere ?
I certainly would not want to re-create it. That is why I would prefer to live inland in a spanish community and integrate as much as possible. However, provision of health care is an important issue regardless of where you live.
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How about learning the language , integrating in to local society , getting a job , paying in to the system , oh i forgot the English expect everything for nothing so they sit on their fat arses having seen place in the sun expecting everyone to speak english, and despite leaving england create their own little England and expect all the benefits they had before , GET REAL !!

If i was Minister for Murcia instead of caving in to poor ill Britains i would make it law , no local language , no integration , no healthcare .
I think the people interviewed were paying taxes etc into the system, and had been paying it all their working lives in UK.
They are not trying to sponge of the Spanish, this is europe and the health cover should work all over, with each country claiming from the country where the monies have been paid.
How would you feel if you moved to the UK and all the money you had paid in Spain was just wiped off and you was not eligable to any care there ?
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I certainly would not want to re-create it. That is why I would prefer to live inland in a spanish community and integrate as much as possible. However, provision of health care is an important issue regardless of where you live.
If you practise what you preach you won't have a problem.
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If you practise what you preach you won't have a problem.
In what way do you mean. The problems with the provision of healthcare will still be there, regardless of whatever I preach, surely?
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I think the people interviewed were paying taxes etc into the system, and had been paying it all their working lives in UK.
They are not trying to sponge of the Spanish, this is europe and the health cover should work all over, with each country claiming from the country where the monies have been paid.
How would you feel if you moved to the UK and all the money you had paid in Spain was just wiped off and you was not eligable to any care there ?
They are trying to sponge off the spanish ! you can just see Uk putting claims into the 196+ different countries citizens using our NHS . They are sponging off the British taxpayer .

No one makes people move to Spain , if some off them did their homework properly it wouldn't be a shock, they don't find out the situation until they are ill . Spanish tax is not overwhelming why should they pay for lazy britains.
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In what way do you mean. The problems with the provision of healthcare will still be there, regardless of whatever I preach, surely?
if you integrate as you say you want to and pay in to the system you will getting something back .
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They are trying to sponge off the spanish ! you can just see Uk putting claims into the 196+ different countries citizens using our NHS . They are sponging off the British taxpayer .

No one makes people move to Spain , if some off them did their homework properly it wouldn't be a shock, they don't find out the situation until they are ill . Spanish tax is not overwhelming why should they pay for lazy britains.
I dont think you understand that these people have paid for their healthcare in the UK every working week of their lives, why should they not be entitled to it in a different country in the EU ?.
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What surprised me was that, the programme stated that people MAY not be eligible for healthcare in the UK until they'd been re-resident(?) for 3 months - it would therefore seem each case is assessed independently. I think that is confusing and may lead to people receiving the wrong info whilst making their decision to emigrate.
It was also interesting to hear the wife of the guy that had the stroke praising the UK now her husband is receiving the right care and showing signs of improvement, even though he had been eligible for treatment in Spain - maybe the NHS ain't so bad afterall?
The other thing the programme implied was the state of the property market, in that despite rising (asking?) prices and significant new build, the couple had had no interest at all in their home in over 12 months?
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We are thinking of retiring to Spain and are starting to learn the language. We don’t know if we will succeed but we are going to give it a try.
We would appreciate any help or advice you expats can give.
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I dont think you understand that these people have paid for their healthcare in the UK every working week of their lives, why should they not be entitled to it in a different country in the EU ?.
I fully understand, are you calling me thick ?! If they are of pensionable age they get free healthcare , if they are not they don't after 2 years, that is the law in Spain . If you move to another country you abide by the law of that country ,if you don't agree with that legally fight to change the law , oh i forgot they can't because they can' speak the langauge , or for 50 euros you can fly home where you can moan in the rain rather than moaning in the sun !

Fact , more Britons in spain pay for Sky TV than healthcare .
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What surprised me was that, the programme stated that people MAY not be eligible for healthcare in the UK until they'd been re-resident(?) for 3 months - it would therefore seem each case is assessed independently. I think that is confusing and may lead to people receiving the wrong info whilst making their decision to emigrate.
It was also interesting to hear the wife of the guy that had the stroke praising the UK now her husband is receiving the right care and showing signs of improvement, even though he had been eligible for treatment in Spain - maybe the NHS ain't so bad afterall?
The other thing the programme implied was the state of the property market, in that despite rising (asking?) prices and significant new build, the couple had had no interest at all in their home in over 12 months?
Did you see the state of the area ,will be trouble if you buy a house that looks exactly like the other couple of thousand built as close as possible to yours.
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