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Fredbargate Feb 15th 2014 12:09 am

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http://www.ukroads.org/ukroadsignals/

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070565.pdf

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_070561.pdf

Domino Feb 15th 2014 11:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 11130978)
Fred you are just being silly for the sake of it. You perfectly know I posted a link to the news about the train crash and you then write about drivers ignoring signals. There are no "signals" on roads. There are road signs (señalización )and there are traffic lights (semáforos). If you want an argument please go to the plaza.


just for the sake of clarity on a technical point - could you please explain to me, as a newcomer to the Spanish Language, what railway signals are called if they are not semáforos and señalización :confused:

I do think looking at your post it was you that made the statement about drivers ignoring signals and signage

Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 11128125)
However it was assumed by RENFE that the driver would abide by the signals and signage.


Casa Santo Estevo Feb 16th 2014 12:23 am

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More news in Spanish
and some more.

Dick Dasterdly Feb 17th 2014 12:19 pm

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http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/02/16/...04_351926.html

Criminal conduct ?

Casa Santo Estevo Feb 17th 2014 7:43 pm

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That is the news I added in the above post.

Dick Dasterdly Feb 18th 2014 2:07 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 11134984)
That is the news I added in the above post.

I'm fully aware of that, just thought an English version on an English language forum might be more appropriate as well as easier for some to digest. :cool:

Casa Santo Estevo Feb 18th 2014 7:36 am

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I pity the poor sods who cannot read or talk Spanish.

jonboy Feb 18th 2014 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 11135949)
I pity the poor sods who cannot read or talk Spanish.

I for one am grateful for your pity, I still struggle with English also, both the people and their language. Luckily I am not a poor sod but quite well off:D

me me Feb 18th 2014 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by jonboy (Post 11136015)
I for one am grateful for your pity, I still struggle with English also, both the people and their language. Luckily I am not a poor sod but quite well off:D

The world is your lobster then isn't it?:thumbup:

Casa Santo Estevo Feb 18th 2014 8:33 am

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Originally Posted by jonboy (Post 11136015)
I for one am grateful for your pity, I still struggle with English also, both the people and their language. Luckily I am not a poor sod but quite well off:D

It seems that there are few others on this forum also have the same problem. Me it is just a keyboard getting in the way.
If you are overflowing with money then perhaps support your local Spaniard and take Spanish classes;)

Casa Santo Estevo Mar 8th 2014 6:42 am

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More train news. In Spanish.
Fire and disrupted services.
AVE competing with airports http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/i...5-sign_duh.gif Who would have thought that?

Domino Mar 8th 2014 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 11135949)
I pity the poor sods who cannot read or talk Spanish.

not as much as I pity the poor sods who are so isolated in their own little world that even having taken English at school they still can't say Good Morning in response to a Buenos Días when meeting an Englishman.
:(

two tubes of toothpaste Mar 8th 2014 8:31 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11164398)
not as much as I pity the poor sods who are so isolated in their own little world that even having taken English at school they still can't say Good Morning in response to a Buenos Días when meeting an Englishman.
:(

In Plymouth or Granada ?

:rofl:

Domino Mar 9th 2014 3:45 am

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Originally Posted by two tubes of toothpaste (Post 11164460)
In Plymouth or Granada ?

:rofl:

it always seemed difficult conversing with Janners and the finer points of Oggie hunting are rather complex
never considered the reasons why
:rofl:
Although I believe the young lady I spoke to from Movistar last week was in Spain, she wasn't Spanish
major Spanish companies like Linea Direct use South American call centres with English/Spanish speakers, when I renewed my car ins the girl was from South America and had spent a number of years in USA... And I know a few Spanish who are not happy with it, but it is for them to make the move as lack of English can impact on jobs here, especially when those from Eastern Europe are being given English speaking jobs that could be filled by Spanish.
Everyone knows the English rarely speak other languages, so that is why they need to learn it but also put it to use.....

Simon_100 Mar 9th 2014 11:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10836013)
Some theories suggest it was deliberately made different in the 19th century to stop the French invading by train!

A better theory is that the engineers responsible just got is wrong as they thought that as the country was so mountainous a larger gauge would allow wider, more powerful locomotives but that turned out not to be the case.

Article on WiKi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_gauge

The gauge question dates back to 1845, when the idea of mobilised armies wasn't even a twinkle in the eye.

Likewise, as that time no-one had really thought about cross border rail traffic or trade as ships were then faster and cheaper for both goods and passengers over longer distances.

It has to be said that at the time and with above parameters in mind broad gauge was a wiser choice, as indeed larger and faster locomotives were more viable - see the nostalgia about Brunel's Great Western Railway's broad gauge - at a staggering 7ft 1/4 ins :D

In the 1840's most 'narrow' i.e. standard gauge locomotives shook themselves off the rails at anything much over 40 mph whilst the Broad Gauge trains were both faster, more powerful and more fuel efficient;

"At the end of 1845, a trial between a broad gauge engine and two narrow gauge engines was arranged. Under the eyes of the Gauge Commission two narrow gauge engines were chosen for comparison with the broad gauge engine Ixion of Gooch's 'Firefly' class. One of the narrow gauge competitors was a new Stephenson engine, 'Engine A', which was tested between York and Darlington. The other was a North Midland Railway loco 'No.54 Stephenson' which ran off the line and fell over after only completing 22 miles. The grades of the lines and the loads pulled being similar, Ixion proved its mastery despite being an older design than its competitors and used less coke and water in the process. Despite the superior performance of Ixion the Gauge Commission decided in favour of the narrow gauge but admitted the technical superiority and potential of Brunel's ideas."

Quote from Lionel A Smith

Since then narrow, i.e. standard gauge trains have had the lion's share of research funds - and they are much cheaper to build! - so fair do's to the original spanish engineers who were only doing what they were commissioned to do after all :)

Regs

Simon


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