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Trafalgar Day
A happy Trafalgar day to one and all
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by EllisG
(Post 9687759)
A happy Trafalgar day to one and all
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9687907)
Thank you. We are quite near the cape of T, and it never ceases to puzzle me why some entrepeneur doesn't cash in on the fact.
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9687989)
Not many countries celebrate the battles they lost
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9688000)
Technically it was the French we were thrashing. An English guy with a boat out to be able to make a killing taking tourists out to the site of the battle.
Mind you the Spanish erected close to Gibraltar a small memorial to the Brave Italian Frogmen who attacked Gibraltar during WW2 |
Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9688000)
An English guy with a boat out to be able to make a killing taking tourists out to the site of the battle.
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 9688049)
What's to see? :confused: Last I heard they were trying to put nearly 300 wind turbines offshore there. Lots of debates going on, I think it's still on hold.
Besides, we did the Spanish a favour forcing Napoleons hand into showing it's former allies his true colours. Without the sea as their option didn't Napoleon decide to break his alliance and invade Spain ?.....I'm no expert on this period or indeed much of French/Spanish history since neither nation has given much for the world to learn from their past exploits |
Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 9688049)
What's to see? :confused: Last I heard they were trying to put nearly 300 wind turbines offshore there. Lots of debates going on, I think it's still on hold.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...310006-3-1.jpg |
Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by EllisG
(Post 9688074)
Besides, we did the Spanish a favour forcing Napoleons hand into showing it's former allies his true colours. Without the sea as their option didn't Napoleon decide to break his alliance and invade Spain ?.....I'm no expert on this period or indeed much of French/Spanish history since neither nation has given much for the world to learn from their past exploits
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9688000)
Technically it was the French we were thrashing. An English guy with a boat out to be able to make a killing taking tourists out to the site of the battle.
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 9688083)
Nelson at sea and Wellington on land :thumbup:
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by EllisG
(Post 9688270)
yeah I know that much...even though technically most of the soldiers fighting with Wellington weren't actually British and if I recall correctly his genius at Waterloo was merely delaying tactics waiting for the Prussian army to regroup and help outnumber the French
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Re: Trafalgar Day
Well, Spain has defeated many times to UK, the difference is that here there is no celebration, and in the UK these victories are not in the UK history books, only says its victories. That's the difference between Spanish and British, spanish says our victories and our defeats, UK only the victories. And when I say Spain wins the United Kingdom, I speak of Admiral Blas de Lezo or battles as Tenerife (before Trafalgar), where Admiral Nelson was captured, healed of his wounds and sent back to the UK. If this had been reversed, if the UK had captured a Spanish admiral, probably would have ended in a firing squad
Regarding Trafalgar, in the case of Franco-Spanish fleet, was not commander the Spanish admirals (Churruca, Gravina, etc) but by a Frenchman incompetent, named Villeneuve, who ignored the Spanish admirals when they warned him not to take out ships in open sea, because were easy targets for Nelson. Then what happened happened |
Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by Relampago
(Post 9688420)
Well, Spain has defeated many times to UK, the difference is that here there is no celebration, and in the UK these victories are not in the UK history books, only says its victories. That's the difference between Spanish and British, spanish says our victories and our defeats, UK only the victories. And when I say Spain wins the United Kingdom, I speak of Admiral Blas de Lezo or battles as Tenerife (before Trafalgar), where Admiral Nelson was captured, healed of his wounds and sent back to the UK. If this had been reversed, if the UK had captured a Spanish admiral, probably would have ended in a firing squad
Regarding Trafalgar, in the case of Franco-Spanish fleet, was not commander the Spanish admirals (Churruca, Gravina, etc) but by a Frenchman incompetent, named Villeneuve, who ignored the Spanish admirals when they warned him not to take out ships in open sea, because were easy targets for Nelson. Then what happened happened |
Re: Trafalgar Day
Originally Posted by Relampago
(Post 9688420)
That's the difference between Spanish and British, spanish says our victories and our defeats, UK only the victories.
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