Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:08 am
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Rob in Madrid
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
Thanks for that - the self-employment is a particular issue for me because I have royalty income and as a resident will be taxed in Spain not the U.K.
Its amazing how many fragments of conflicting advice are floating around. I'm gathering them together and then going to make a written enquiry with the Spanish Consulate to get the 'official' version
Its amazing how many fragments of conflicting advice are floating around. I'm gathering them together and then going to make a written enquiry with the Spanish Consulate to get the 'official' version
As I mentioned as an EU national you only need a Social Security number for employment and it's very easy to get. You need to get a NIE at somepoint but not as much of a hurry. For self employment you need a NIE and that is where it get's more complicated as you have to pay Social Security and income taxes. I havn't got it all figured out yet myself.
It's Madrid specific but you'll find alot of good information here on work and residency permits and self employment (autonomo I believe is the term) go to http://spaintalk.multimadrid.org/eve...m/f/1261030511
the bulk of the questions deal with teaching English the information applies regardless. Just a note, do a search before posting a new question! Jer is abit sensitive about people posting the same questions over and over
And for all things SIM go here
http://www.onspanishtime.com/web/index.htm
hope this helps.
Rob
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:23 am
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
Believe me, search and Google is being my friend but often the fragments I find, when considered alongside their threads and other articles, don't inspire me with confidence as to their authority or accuracy.
I started this thread as a way to gather tips from experienced ex-pats about the things we would not expect - what I think of as below-the-line culture
I put up a few initial questions and some of the fibres (baby threads
) have developed their own life.I plan on eventually bringing all the facts together in one article once I'm moved and can talk from experience in the hope others who come later can easily find it.
You can't expect people coming fresh to these forums to read the thousands of posts with their tittle-tattle, in-jokes, quoting, re-quoting, challenging layout grammar and spelling.
To find answers you've got to know what questions to ask (search), and as this thread is showing, there's lots of stuff that ex-pats take for granted that new-comers have no clue about.
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:35 am
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
"I plan on eventually bringing all the facts together in one article once I'm moved and can talk from experience in the hope others who come later can easily find it."
I think a lot of people try this on their websites, but you will soon realize that in Spain rules and regulations change almost weekly, although sometimes the EU regs take a little while before Spain accepts them. ;-)
I think a lot of people try this on their websites, but you will soon realize that in Spain rules and regulations change almost weekly, although sometimes the EU regs take a little while before Spain accepts them. ;-)
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:37 am
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
Thanks Rob, that's really helpful.
Believe me, search and Google is being my friend but often the fragments I find, when considered alongside their threads and other articles, don't inspire me with confidence as to their authority or accuracy.
I started this thread as a way to gather tips from experienced ex-pats about the things we would not expect - what I think of as below-the-line culture
I put up a few initial questions and some of the fibres (baby threads ) have developed their own life.
I plan on eventually bringing all the facts together in one article once I'm moved and can talk from experience in the hope others who come later can easily find it.
You can't expect people coming fresh to these forums to read the thousands of posts with their tittle-tattle, in-jokes, quoting, re-quoting, challenging layout grammar and spelling.
To find answers you've got to know what questions to ask (search), and as this thread is showing, there's lots of stuff that ex-pats take for granted that new-comers have no clue about.
Believe me, search and Google is being my friend but often the fragments I find, when considered alongside their threads and other articles, don't inspire me with confidence as to their authority or accuracy.
I started this thread as a way to gather tips from experienced ex-pats about the things we would not expect - what I think of as below-the-line culture
I put up a few initial questions and some of the fibres (baby threads
) have developed their own life.I plan on eventually bringing all the facts together in one article once I'm moved and can talk from experience in the hope others who come later can easily find it.
You can't expect people coming fresh to these forums to read the thousands of posts with their tittle-tattle, in-jokes, quoting, re-quoting, challenging layout grammar and spelling.
To find answers you've got to know what questions to ask (search), and as this thread is showing, there's lots of stuff that ex-pats take for granted that new-comers have no clue about.
After reading your post, I have the following comments.
Not every region of Spain has the same laws/traditions/buearocracy (speed or lack there of). Laws in Spain change so fast (and are so different from one town hall to another) that by the time you think you know something 100% they go right behind your back and change it! What works for one person does not always work for another and last but not least you will actually find out more by trial and error when you get to your destination.
You will also find yourself saying......yes, but I was told.......blah blah blah!
M
PS....Do you have any idea how many books re "Taxation in Spain" or "Self Employment in Spain" are out of date before they are even published?
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:38 am
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
"I plan on eventually bringing all the facts together in one article once I'm moved and can talk from experience in the hope others who come later can easily find it."
I think a lot of people try this on their websites, but you will soon realize that in Spain rules and regulations change almost weekly, although sometimes the EU regs take a little while before Spain accepts them. ;-)
I think a lot of people try this on their websites, but you will soon realize that in Spain rules and regulations change almost weekly, although sometimes the EU regs take a little while before Spain accepts them. ;-)
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:42 am
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Mar 28th 2007 | 3:49 am
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Re: Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
"I plan on eventually bringing all the facts together in one article once I'm moved and can talk from experience in the hope others who come later can easily find it."
I think a lot of people try this on their websites, but you will soon realize that in Spain rules and regulations change almost weekly, although sometimes the EU regs take a little while before Spain accepts them. ;-)
I think a lot of people try this on their websites, but you will soon realize that in Spain rules and regulations change almost weekly, although sometimes the EU regs take a little while before Spain accepts them. ;-)
Things I've found so far that confounded my expectations:
- Electric supply being taken directly from the street line without a meter
- Access times for swimming facilities
- Transferring mobile 'phone contracts
- New properties potentially not being connected to phone/ADSL
- Things don't happen quickly
- Best times to rent a property long-term
- Checking drives are laid so rain-water flows away from the building!
- Needing a building permit for almost any modifications, even DIY
- Seller & Buyer can be fined heavily if taxes are paid late as a result of the buyer not having an N.I.E. at the time of purchase
Last edited by IntuitiveNipple; Mar 28th 2007 at 4:01 am.
Mar 28th 2007 | 3:56 am
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Re: Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
I'm not thinking about the laws and regulations for the most part - what I'm interested in are the cultural things that you don't expect, or do expect and are not standard in Spain.
Things I've found so far that confounded my expectations:
Things I've found so far that confounded my expectations:
- Electric supply being taken directly from the street line without a meter
- Access times for swimming facilities
- Transferring mobile 'phone contracts
- New properties potentially not being connected to phone/ADSL
- Things don't happen quickly
- Best times to rent a property long-term
- Checking drives are laid so rain-water flows away from the building!
- Needing a building permit for almost any modifications, even DIY
Mar 28th 2007 | 4:10 am
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
S for single, C for married, V for widow and D for divorced
The guide in English to completing EX-14
Last edited by IntuitiveNipple; Mar 28th 2007 at 4:13 am.
Mar 28th 2007 | 4:23 am
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Re: Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
Here's something that hopefully won't be needed, but is worth being aware of:
Doctors in the emergency departments of state health service hospitals will prescribe medicines on the appropriate medical report, but do not issue official prescriptions.
You must take the report to a primary care doctor who will issue the official prescription.
You must take the report to a primary care doctor who will issue the official prescription.
Mar 28th 2007 | 4:33 am
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Re: Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
And more:
And contacting them:
PolicÃa Local Sometimes known as the PolicÃa Municipal, this force is controlled by city and town councils and deal mainly with minor matters such as parking, traffic and bylaws. They wear blue-and-white uniforms. In Catalunya the equivalent force is called the Guardia Urbana.
Spain has no real equivalent of the ‘bobby on the beat’ street-patrol police.
Spain has no real equivalent of the ‘bobby on the beat’ street-patrol police.
Contacting the Police Anywhere in Spain you can call 091 for the PolicÃa Nacional or 092 for the PolicÃa Local. Guardia Civil numbers vary from place to place, although often you can reach them on 062. The local emergency number for the Costa Blanca is 112
Mar 28th 2007 | 4:38 am
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Re: English Translation of N.I.E. (NIE) Form Ex-14
Mar 28th 2007 | 4:54 am
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Re: Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
not sure, can anyone confirm?
Mar 28th 2007 | 4:58 am
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Re: Tips for relocating to improve life/work balance?
Apologies if this is getting boring, but I'm having a right good rummage and finding some fantastic tips:
The Spanish are dreadful at administrating and whilst they intend with the best will in the world to do something, quite often they just never seem to get round to it, you have to keep on until it is done and how polite you are often has a bearing on how quickly this works! Check everything - Don't sign anything you don't understand or can't read and never unless your solicitor has said it is appropriate to do so.
