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Old May 25th 2011 | 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by Dougle
Hi John.

You will indeed need a dish installed to be able to receive Sky! Have you asked the owner of the building if there is a dish you can share?

I have had clients move house as they were not allowed, Or could not get a signal physically!

They also must allow you by law, But its best to sort it out amicably first. I am not sure if there is a cable company providing services in your area as there is in Malaga
where we are based,

Perhaps another engineer on this forum from your location can shed some light on things!

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I think you'll find that by law you must be able to receive a television service, ie. spanish tv - not SKY

since you're not actually meant to be able to get a SKY signal in Spain, I think you'd be treading very thin ice trying to insist that they allow a dish big enough to recieve it
 
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Originally Posted by Dougle
Hi Chiclanagir.

Have you looked into PVR receivers? Humax do one and it gives you the recording facility like sky plus but for people who don't want to pay a subscription!

Plus you get 4 HD channels also.
She wants 2 episodes of Game of Thrones, which is on Sky 1, so a feesat / non subscription service would not work.

Hows aboout going the p2p torrent route - via a p2p clieet (utorrent?) and a p2p file site (like thepiratebay.org). Great for cathcing up, and free. and no adverts to wait for...
 
Old May 25th 2011 | 2:11 am
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Originally Posted by Saxy
Second is that there is no dish fitted at the flat, and the owner of the building will not let me have one installed. As such, if a sky engineer were to come round it's likely he would suspect something and refuse to complete the install.

Hi all,
I haven't read all of the posts, but surely a dish is needed .
Sorry if I'm being stupid.

John.
The first OP of this thread says that there is no dish at the UK flat, which he intends to get the card "addressed" to.
You can order a card from sky to a UK address.
It does not matter if Sky have a dish there or not, they dont keep tabs of their dish installs...for all they know you could have bougth a dish at B&Q, or a boot sale, and self installed...All you need is the card, which is via post, and not an actual engineer visit.


But the card will need a signal dfrom a dish to get activated.
 
Old May 25th 2011 | 2:14 am
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She wants 2 episodes of Game of Thrones, which is on Sky 1, so a feesat / non subscription service would not work.

Hows aboout going the p2p torrent route - via a p2p clieet (utorrent?) and a p2p file site (like thepiratebay.org). Great for cathcing up, and free. and no adverts to wait for...
best idea!!

PirateBay does have Game of Thrones - hope it has the episodes you want chiclanagirl

make the most if it while it's stiil legal - I do!!
 
Old May 25th 2011 | 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
I think you'll find that by law you must be able to receive a television service, ie. spanish tv - not SKY

since you're not actually meant to be able to get a SKY signal in Spain, I think you'd be treading very thin ice trying to insist that they allow a dish big enough to recieve it
As far as I know there is an EU law about Freedom of Information. It says something along the lines that all EU members must have access to news and information in your own langauge.
BBC World is free and available on many satellite with European coverage.
SKy News international also.
SO these two channels satisfy the EU requirement.

There are no EU requirements to say ALL UK TV channels MUST be provided.
The old TV without Frontiers now AVMS Directive is not about "pan european broadcasting" like many think it is. It is all about standardising the rules and regulations for TV around europe...like only so many minutes advertising, violence on TV etc. It does not, like many think, mean all EU TV channels should be available to all over europe...by satellite or internet streaming (which many of these internet phone company streaming services claim EU law supports...no eu law supports the ripping off of someone elses property for retranmission on your own private TV network WITHOUT perminssion.)
 
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best idea!!
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Old May 25th 2011 | 2:19 am
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Originally Posted by The Guy
The first OP of this thread says that there is no dish at the UK flat, which he intends to get the card "addressed" to.
You can order a card from sky to a UK address.
It does not matter if Sky have a dish there or not, they dont keep tabs of their dish installs...for all they know you could have bougth a dish at B&Q, or a boot sale, and self installed...All you need is the card, which is via post, and not an actual engineer visit.


But the card will need a signal dfrom a dish to get activated.
That's why I apologised, I read it as though he owned the flat in the U.K. and the Spanish landlord wouldn't let him erect a dish here.

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Old May 25th 2011 | 2:26 am
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As far as I know there is an EU law about Freedom of Information. It says something along the lines that all EU members must have access to news and information in your own langauge.
BBC World is free and available on many satellite with European coverage.
SKy News international also.
SO these two channels satisfy the EU requirement.

There are no EU requirements to say ALL UK TV channels MUST be provided.
The old TV without Frontiers now AVMS Directive is not about "pan european broadcasting" like many think it is. It is all about standardising the rules and regulations for TV around europe...like only so many minutes advertising, violence on TV etc. It does not, like many think, mean all EU TV channels should be available to all over europe...by satellite or internet streaming (which many of these internet phone company streaming services claim EU law supports...no eu law supports the ripping off of someone elses property for retranmission on your own private TV network WITHOUT perminssion.)
thanks for clearing that up - am I right though in thinking that this law is unlikely to help in a demand that you put a big dish on your roof?
 
Old May 25th 2011 | 2:51 am
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From my understanding, you cannot use the "EU laws says so" as permission to install a big dish. It does not work like that.
EU Freedom of information: covered by BBC World News - small dish, on most satellites around the world! Evemn if your appt block has a TV system for Spanish satellite TV then BBC World is on them so the appt block dont have to grant permisison for a big dish!
Television without frontiers EU directive - was never law, more a "nice to have" and is nothing to do with allowing you to watch your countries TV in other eu countries.
AVMS (TVwF successor) : more to do with the rules and regulation of TV. Was due to be implimented in Dec 2009, but many EU countries have not, or only partially. Spain has not fully implimented is yet, nether the UK, so telecos claiming EU law says they can "steal" (ie takle without permission) other broadcasters transmissions for them to pump through their own system are really not telling the whole truth!

But getting into the nitty gritty of the laws and directives and it gets a lot more complicated than that.
For example, EU law says communities can block the installation of dishes. If they say it is for aesthetic reeasons, then EU law says you must explore areas and ways to mask (like screening) the dish / installation before it is totally blocked!
But then we know counties interpretate laws to their own benefits....

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Old May 25th 2011 | 3:32 am
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Originally Posted by Dougle
Hi Chiclanagir.

Have you looked into PVR receivers? Humax do one and it gives you the recording facility like sky plus but for people who don't want to pay a subscription!

Plus you get 4 HD channels also.

You can then watch one and record a second, as well as set it to record the whole series of something! Humax 500GB PVR HD, Google it for info. I remember you saying you had a freesat box! This is similar but with a Hard drive

Kindest regards.

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No Carl, I have a Sky plus HD box and recorded the first two episodes then my husband in my absence decided I wouldn´t like it and stopped recording! In HIS absence I watched the first two episodes (recorded) and loved it hence the reason I want to do catch up before watching episode 5 which I have recorded. Does this make sense?
 
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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
No Carl, I have a Sky plus HD box and recorded the first two episodes then my husband in my absence decided I wouldn´t like it and stopped recording! In HIS absence I watched the first two episodes (recorded) and loved it hence the reason I want to do catch up before watching episode 5 which I have recorded. Does this make sense?
Does your husband have funny mustache?
 
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Does your husband have funny mustache?
Am I being very thick, but, I just don´t get it!
 
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What you wrote does make sense, but your hubby deleting stuff, and you watching it in his absence screamed for a silly joke.. I was referring to a German chap not very tall with funny mustache, just a joke, wasn't meant to offend in any way.
 
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Originally Posted by ameliapond
What you wrote does make sense, but your hubby deleting stuff, and you watching it in his absence screamed for a silly joke.. I was referring to a German chap not very tall with funny mustache, just a joke, wasn't meant to offend in any way.
Didn´t offend at all. Just didn´t get it! I think he thought there were too many "naughty bits" for me!
 
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Hi Chiclanagir.

I now get it, Thanks for clearing that up.

Kindest regards,

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