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But as I said above, if the attack is imminent, the suspect doesn't have long to hold out. If it's not, it's likely that his accomplices, knowing he may divulge information, will change their plans if possible.

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I don't beleive in torture either, but you asked a question about a very real life situation, you have to face the consequences of that...

Sadly not having an answer in that type of situation doesn't solve the problem and can cost many lives, * what do you expect them to do.... * sit back and wait? again your life could be at risk here.

People are very quick to jump up and say they disagree with the way security forces do things, but they never seem to have any other solution except to do nothing or complain. Sadly most of the public don't want to know what goes on to keep them safe, they are just content in sitting back without knowing what those procedures 'legal or otherwise' are.

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So now you agree? :) lol

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OK; going off topic slightly, with apologies to Lee8

This is mainly to Econ

Suppose you were in a war situation and you were being tortured for information you had ( or didn't have, even). You don't have to imagine yourself a terrorist, perhaps a member of the resistance.
Your information would have serious consequences for others.

Would you tell if tortured?

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Agree with what? Torture? - no. I'm simply pointing out the futility of it.

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I don't know... if I didn't have the info I don't know what I would be eventually driven to say, if I had the info I would like to think I wouldn't divulge it, but I have never been held and tortured so I don't know, this is not a question anyone can just answer.

I do know if I was in a situation to possibly prevent a terrorist attack and save lives that I would do what I thought I had to to try and save those peoples lives. :)

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I am being tortured by having to read all this thread based on a newspaper story about an alleged happening.

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Ok, bear with me.

So, you'd like to think you wouldn't divulge the information under torture.

What if it was someone else they were torturing to make you tell? Your partner, you children. Would you tell? Would you tell more quickly?

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We've long since left behind the alleged happening about which none of us have the facts. But it's led to an interesting discussion and it's got my post count up. ;)

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My opinions on what I would do have nothing to do with it, I nor you are the person in the situation, all you can do is say what you * think * you would do. :frown:

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So what do you *think* you would do?

Sorry, I understand if you'd rather not answer.

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If an attack is imminent, he will say anything false to buy time, just because his balls are being squeezed dosn`t mean he will tell the truth.

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No not really.

I believe in all kinda of nasties if the person is guilty, Igor may well be a terrorist, but at the time thay did these beatings there wasn`t any justification.

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Just a quick question in relation to the original post; the EU investigation that was being alluded to,would that be the EU Parliment report of Feb 14th 2007,relating to alleged toleration of illegal CIA activities (extraordinary rendition,torture,black sites etc)?

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I have already told you, the same answer applies:

Is this a smoke screen you are trying to throw up to cover that fact you disagree with taking measures to save peoples lives in a terrorist situation but cannot offer any other options? :rofl:

Listen, if someone was going to kill a loved one you would probably give the info, even if you knew you would all be killed in the event. But this doesn't have anything to do with your question because you cannot turn round and then compare what I might do to what a terrorist might do. :)